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[Shadowlord]

Suspects are still loose. Otherwise, we haven't a goddamn clue.

Clear evidence that it was perpetrated by ninjas, amirite?

Edit: Apparently there were hundreds of other people in the building but they just hit the banquet... Weird.

[Flying Dice]

Yeah, that's the thing, I'm not seeing motive for a rational actor like the cartels--what would they stand to gain from murdering low-level bureaucrats in an organization unrelated to drug trafficking and/or people with developmental disabilities? Same goes for foreign terrorists, it's not a target of any real cultural or ideological significance, and it's not a massively target-rich environment if they were going for maximum casualties.

So.

1. Disgruntled worker.
2. Trenchcoat crazy who just wants to make the news.
3. Confused anti-choice crazy who thought "public health = abortions".

That's my big three right now. Not that it means much of anything.

[smjjames]

Yeah, like Jervil said, there is so little information that we should wait maybe 6 hours before we wildly speculate because even rational speculation is hitting dead ends.

Edit: The CNN affiliate said something about shots fired somewhere and suspect down, but could be something completely unrelated.

[smjjames]

Hmmm, something is going on at another scene where it looks like police are in pursuit of the suspect or suspects.

Edit: Think I saw a SWAT van en-route, I think.

Edit2: Sounded like they are chasing someone on foot I believe.

[nenjin]

Cmon though. Do you honestly need to see it? Always hated that part about the media, where they'll tease a picture of corpse then act like they're trying to hold a moral high ground about showing it. Either show it or deem it inappropriate content.

[smjjames]

They have one suspect down.

"There's a body close to the bottom of the screen; we're not going to show it to the viewers" as the body is in the center of the screen. Goddammit CNN.

They don't want to zoom in close enough to show the goryness of it.

Also, I'm a little worried about the 'multiple helicopers flying overhead' since it sounds a bit dangerously crowded'.

Cmon though. Do you honestly need to see it?

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Anyways, one suspect down, standoff with others, and maybe one on foot, unless thats the suspect they are in a standoff with.

[Shadowlord]

While we wait for answers for this shooting, here are answers to the Planned Parenthood shooting: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ex-wife-says-clinic-suspect-vandalized-planned-parenthood/ar-AAfWGFM

[Flying Dice]

Also, I'm a little worried about the 'multiple helicopers flying overhead' since it sounds a bit dangerously crowded'.

Shouldn't be, if none of the pilots are nitwits circling contrawise to everyone else.

[Shadowlord]

Also http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/02/us/robert-dear-planned-parenthood-shooting.html?partner=msft_msn

[smjjames]

Well, we already figured out that guy was nuts.

Also, Carson jumps the conclusion shark plus extremely broad definition of a hate crime.

[My Name is Immaterial]

I guess we get to add "Hate Crimes" to the list of things that Ben Carson doesn't understand.

[smjjames]

Yeah, the media and correspondents are kind of speculating in circles since nothing is making sense, but are noting how unusual the circumstances are.

Anyway, sounds like two people dead and one maybe on the loose somewhere.

[Mephansteras]

I just can't figure out why the gunmen went north instead of south. They were a minute from a highway, but chose residential streets. I'm so damn confused.

Well, I10 could arguably be worse than surface streets on any given day....

[misko27]

Maybe they are time-travellers, and are assassinating future-hitler or something.

[smjjames]

One correspondent said that they probably planned on another attack in the area. They also noticed that they didn't go for a high body count, sort of like they sprayed at a particular target and left.

Put simply, theres contradictions all over that don't make a whole lot of sense with the information we currently have.