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[TheBiggerFish]

even the Senate is realizing how useless they are.

http://www.npr.org/2015/11/03/454368957/freshman-senator-to-his-colleagues-the-people-despise-us-all

He sounds like he wants to change that.
I hope he succeeds.

[smjjames]

They're starting to call it with Bevin leading by 8% with 85% of the votes in. RIP Kentucky, maybe our sacrifice will help show the way forward in the presidential race.

Beshear and Grimes are still showing slight leads, so it might not be a complete disaster yet, just 95% of one.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/kentucky-governor-race-matt-bevin-wins-215502

I don't see how losing the Kentucky governorship to the republicans will help show the way forward in the presidential race.

Hey. We are not the deep south, even if it's starting to look that way.

It was actually Mississippi though, my bad.

[Playergamer]

I think he's saying bevin might completely fail at governing and people will see outsider candidates don't work.

/ he might succeed and trump/carson will get boosts.

[smjjames]

I think he's saying bevin might completely fail at governing and people will see outsider candidates don't work.

/ he might succeed and trump/carson will get boosts.

Uh, *points at Arnold Schwarzenegger and his time as Governator* He was an outsider and did okay.

[TheBiggerFish]

I think he's saying bevin might completely fail at governing and people will see outsider candidates don't work.

/ he might succeed and trump/carson will get boosts.

Uh, *points at Arnold Schwarzenegger and his time as Governator* He was an outsider and did okay.

Yes, but that's ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER.

[sluissa]

Or more likely, nobody outside of Kentucky will notice one iota what he does. (And most within Kentucky won't really pay attention either.) And my god was voter turnout in Kentucky disappointing. Yet another thing that Australia gets right, compulsory voting.

[Playergamer]

Ah yes, Ahnold, my favorite governer.

But, I'm saying, from a nationwide standpoint, those are basically the two options.

Or more likely, nobody outside of Kentucky will notice one iota what he does. (And most within Kentucky won't really pay attention either.) And my god was voter turnout in Kentucky disappointing. Yet another thing that Australia gets right, compulsory voting.

compulsory voting is undemocratic. always has been.

[smjjames]

Or more likely, nobody outside of Kentucky will notice one iota what he does. (And most within Kentucky won't really pay attention either.) And my god was voter turnout in Kentucky disappointing. Yet another thing that Australia gets right, compulsory voting.

Except that compulsory voting won't go over that well here in the US. Having election day be on a weekday doesn't help things of course.

[sluissa]

Ah yes, Ahnold, my favorite governer.

But, I'm saying, from a nationwide standpoint, those are basically the two options.

Or more likely, nobody outside of Kentucky will notice one iota what he does. (And most within Kentucky won't really pay attention either.) And my god was voter turnout in Kentucky disappointing. Yet another thing that Australia gets right, compulsory voting.

compulsory voting is undemocratic. always has been.

That's very arguable. Especially since the definition democracy is "a system of government in which all the people of a state or polity ... are involved in making decisions about its affairs, typically by voting to elect representatives to a parliament or similar assembly,"

[TheBiggerFish]

Or more likely, nobody outside of Kentucky will notice one iota what he does. (And most within Kentucky won't really pay attention either.) And my god was voter turnout in Kentucky disappointing. Yet another thing that Australia gets right, compulsory voting.

Except that compulsory voting won't go over that well here in the US. Having election day be on a weekday doesn't help things of course.

If Election Day was a national holiday...

[penguinofhonor]

I'm sure if Bevin cuts the Medicaid expansion part of Obamacare (which he has said he will), the hundreds of thousands of people who will lose health insurance will notice. And the many people across the country who are improving their states' healthcare systems based off Kentucky's highly successful one will notice. It does seem likely that few people outside those groups will care.

Our only hope is in the fact that Matt Bevin has also said that he won't cut the Medicaid expansion, so I guess we'll see next year which Matt Bevin was right.

[Strife26]

Ah yes, Ahnold, my favorite governer.

But, I'm saying, from a nationwide standpoint, those are basically the two options.

Or more likely, nobody outside of Kentucky will notice one iota what he does. (And most within Kentucky won't really pay attention either.) And my god was voter turnout in Kentucky disappointing. Yet another thing that Australia gets right, compulsory voting.

compulsory voting is undemocratic. always has been.

That's very arguable. Especially since the definition democracy is "a system of government in which all the people of a state or polity ... are involved in making decisions about its affairs, typically by voting to elect representatives to a parliament or similar assembly,"

That is a remarkably cherry picked definition for democracy.

[Frumple]

If Election Day was a national holiday...

S'always been one of the more baldfacedly screwed up parts of our political system that it isn't, really. At some point in the past, someone thought that was a good idea, and through some arcane bumbuggery the rampant stupidity of that hasn't been corrected since.

[sluissa]

Or more likely, nobody outside of Kentucky will notice one iota what he does. (And most within Kentucky won't really pay attention either.) And my god was voter turnout in Kentucky disappointing. Yet another thing that Australia gets right, compulsory voting.

Except that compulsory voting won't go over that well here in the US. Having election day be on a weekday doesn't help things of course.

In the US most areas have initiated an early or absentee voting system. Here, for a week beforehand the polls are open and you can go any time between, I believe 7 am and 7pm. Also all states have some sort of absentee vote system with most of them not even requiring an excuse, just a request for a ballot to be mailed to you to fill out.

I'm sure if Bevin cuts the Medicaid expansion part of Obamacare (which he has said he will), the hundreds of thousands of people who will lose health insurance will notice. And the many people across the country who are improving their states' healthcare systems based off Kentucky's highly successful one will notice. It does seem likely that few people outside those groups will care.

Our only hope is in the fact that Matt Bevin has also said that he won't cut the Medicaid expansion, so I guess we'll see next year which Matt Bevin was right.

Very few people are even aware that Kentucky is the shining example of Obamacare works. I've been told a few times over the past couple of years and I'm still surprised every time I hear it.

[Playergamer]

voting is a right, not a duty. Both the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the UN’s International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights refer to people’s rights to “freely chosen representatives”. You say that like "none of the above" or "I don't care" are not opinions. If people who are completely indifferent are forced to choose a candidate, they will likely just choose a name they recognize, instead of someone they agree with. If you force them to go to the polling place, and give them the option to say "None of the above" then you're forcing people to go somewhere, just to say they were there.