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Author Topic: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée  (Read 1571052 times)

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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #5355 on: October 19, 2015, 04:37:24 pm »

Huh, fair enough. It doesn't seem to me that it would be hard to design a machine that can do those measurements to the same degree as a human, and much faster, but you know the field and I don't, so perhaps I'm pulling a classic Pointy Haired Boss and starting from the assumption that everything I don't know how to do is easy.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #5356 on: October 19, 2015, 04:43:58 pm »

So anyway, how 'bout them drones? I haven't quite decided if this is a sensible move or not, or if it could be accomplished with less onerous regulation, but this seems to be a thing that's happening whether we like it or not. The article makes it sound like the current rules would be enough if people would actually follow them, so they're moving up to this. It also says that drones don't have any kind of identification on them though, and that unless it is actually in an accident they have no way of telling who owns it or even that it's actually there.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #5357 on: October 19, 2015, 05:31:07 pm »

I feel like droning is the natural extension of the public's phone-based lifestyle. With just your phone you'd obsessively selfie and video yourself doing everything. Now with a drone, you can turn from narcissism to voyeurism. "Someone's house is burning down? Cool! Let me check it out with the drone. Oh rad, someone is actually burning to death on the 3rd floor! Youtube fame, here I come!"

And when drone trolling becomes a thing...oh man. Like mounting a light weight klaxon on your drone and then piloting it into a crowded place and turning it on.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #5358 on: October 19, 2015, 06:53:09 pm »

The bad news is that the Democratic party is about as organized as a sack of cats. The fact that they're more organized than the republicans is.... impressive but not in a positive sense. The Democratic strategy seems to remain "Become Republican."

The Republican party is the party of a higher minimum wage, the right to organize, maternal and paternal leave, using executive orders to regulate too big to fail banks, keeping Obamacare, overturning Citizens United and having the EPA slap fines on people that dont meet emissions targets?
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #5359 on: October 19, 2015, 07:01:06 pm »

The bad news is that the Democratic party is about as organized as a sack of cats. The fact that they're more organized than the republicans is.... impressive but not in a positive sense. The Democratic strategy seems to remain "Become Republican."

The Republican party is the party of a higher minimum wage, the right to organize, maternal and paternal leave, using executive orders to regulate too big to fail banks, keeping Obamacare, overturning Citizens United and having the EPA slap fines on people that dont meet emissions targets?

I was confused until I saw the question mark at the end.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #5360 on: October 19, 2015, 07:04:07 pm »

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« Reply #5361 on: October 19, 2015, 09:06:24 pm »

The bad news is that the Democratic party is about as organized as a sack of cats.

Doesn't that pretty much describe every political party ever?

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/jim-webb-democrats-independent-214929
Eh? Webb wants to maybe run as an Independent? I don't know if he plans on staying in the general election, but while I doubt he'll pull off a Ralph Nader, he may pull enough democrat votes to affect a close race.
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« Reply #5362 on: October 19, 2015, 10:06:51 pm »


The Republican party is the party of a higher minimum wage, the right to organize, maternal and paternal leave, using executive orders to regulate too big to fail banks, keeping Obamacare, overturning Citizens United and having the EPA slap fines on people that dont meet emissions targets?
Could always have another flip. :P
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« Reply #5363 on: October 19, 2015, 10:12:31 pm »


The Republican party is the party of a higher minimum wage, the right to organize, maternal and paternal leave, using executive orders to regulate too big to fail banks, keeping Obamacare, overturning Citizens United and having the EPA slap fines on people that dont meet emissions targets?
Could always have another flip. :P

Yeah, the Democrats and Republicans were on opposite sides at one point weren't they? Still, such a flip isn't going to happen overnight, it'd take decades, and at this point it'd be a really extreme flip because right now they are polar opposites.

Also, 'Biden runs for president rumors' hype!

Edit: Made some clarification, heh.
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« Reply #5364 on: October 19, 2015, 10:28:29 pm »

He finally put his hat in the running?

Not yet, maybe I should have said ''biden runs for president rumors' hype!' Theres sources saying that the potential Biden campaign team is being assembled, so....... only Biden knows at this point really.
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« Reply #5365 on: October 19, 2015, 10:57:16 pm »

Everything I read says it's unlikely to happen after the lovefest that was the first democratic primary.  Biden is unlikely to win unless Hillary collapses under BENGAZI BENGAZI BENGAZI.  The debate showed that is unlikely to happen.
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« Reply #5366 on: October 20, 2015, 12:37:10 am »

Everything I read says it's unlikely to happen after the lovefest that was the first democratic primary.  Biden is unlikely to win unless Hillary collapses under BENGAZI BENGAZI BENGAZI.  The debate showed that is unlikely to happen.
I can see insults of "Biden is a closet Sandersite" incoming. It would have split the Democratic establishment.


That said, having an establishment doesn't mean that it is also duper organized.

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« Reply #5367 on: October 20, 2015, 01:05:11 am »

It would split democratic establishment voters.  The establishment wouldn't because Democratic politicians tend not to jump ship after they endorse and most national democratic politicians have already made an endorsement.
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« Reply #5368 on: October 20, 2015, 01:21:47 am »

It would split democratic establishment voters.  The establishment wouldn't because Democratic politicians tend not to jump ship after they endorse and most national democratic politicians have already made an endorsement.
Unless Sanders might get a plurality in this case, and Sanders could in theory pull a Corbyn there...

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« Reply #5369 on: October 20, 2015, 10:34:46 am »

Jim Webb is dropping out. Whether he is dropping out entirely or just going independent instead, I don't know.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/jim-webb-quit-democratic-primary-n447736

I seriously doubt he can pull off a Ralph Nader, but if it's a close race, he might be able to affect it. However, I'm sure most everybody here remembers the 2000 elections.
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