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[RedKing]

Before It's News is not satire sadly. It's a right-wing conspiracy site, of the New-World-Order Jews-Coming-To-Get-You type. You know, the whole "we print what the liberal lamestream media refuses to tell you". They take Alex Jones as a serious analyst on sites like this, and one article accessible from their front page claims that Nords have the superior bloodline of the biblical Nephilim, and middle-eastern immigration into Europe is a jewish illuminati plot to eradicate this blood-of-the-gods from existence for once and for all. Maybe some people are trolls there, but it's not satire per-se.

This is what stuck out to me.

Take a look at the photo below and see the Pope starting his remarks by giving the Satanic Illuminati “OK” sign

What the wha? I had no idea that Satanic Illuminati were EVERYWHERE.

Spoiler: I mean...WHO KNEW? (click to show/hide)

[smjjames]

Meh, best just to dump those into the deepest refuse pile, the site and the conspiracy stuff I mean.

Anyhow, the new Quinnipiac poll shows that the democrats need those debates REALLY badly.

[mainiac]

What the wha? I had no idea that Satanic Illuminati were EVERYWHERE.

Entire world illuminati confirmed.

Now to just hunt down the double illuminati who secretly dont use the satanic sign.

[redwallzyl]

i just listened to his speech and it was amazing! a beautiful message of peace love and responsibility! some of congress have to be reeling from that. its hard to object to someone who advocates core American values and invokes Lincoln and Martin Luther King.

[mainiac]

How many Ronald Reagan mentions?

[RedKing]

its hard to object to someone who advocates core American values and invokes Lincoln and Martin Luther King.

Oh please, every American politician advocates freedom, justice and democracy, and invokes Lincoln, King and JFK. And yet half of them think the other half are Satan Incarnate.

Not saying Il Papa was bad, just that hitting all the rhetorical notes does not a persuasive speaker make.

[Bauglir]

Not saying Il Papa was bad, just that hitting all the rhetorical notes does not a persuasive speaker make.

Well, yes, actually, it does. That's why they do it. It's meaningless bullshit that makes them more persuasive to the average citizen

[Frumple]

Yeah... something like that, anyway. Though his approval ratings among conservatives dropped to 45% over the course of the last year. S'actually been on a bit of a downslope with the US in general, but it's been worse on that end.

Un(?)fortunately, a fair amount of the folks in the US don't like the guy, and disagree on what those core american values are. Plus most of the things he's saying take responsibility about are things at least half our political spectrum is screaming "hell no" in response to, heh. Fun bit is it even varies a lil' which half is screaming that. There's something about Current Pope for everyone to hate, apparently.

Pretty sure we've already got conservatives pissing fire into the air about his words regarding climate change and immigration, ha, if nothing else. Been having that for a while now, really.

[Teneb]

Before It's News is not satire sadly. It's a right-wing conspiracy site, of the New-World-Order Jews-Coming-To-Get-You type. You know, the whole "we print what the liberal lamestream media refuses to tell you". They take Alex Jones as a serious analyst on sites like this, and one article accessible from their front page claims that Nords have the superior bloodline of the biblical Nephilim, and middle-eastern immigration into Europe is a jewish illuminati plot to eradicate this blood-of-the-gods from existence for once and for all. Maybe some people are trolls there, but it's not satire per-se.

This is what stuck out to me.

Take a look at the photo below and see the Pope starting his remarks by giving the Satanic Illuminati “OK” sign

What the wha? I had no idea that Satanic Illuminati were EVERYWHERE.

Spoiler: I mean...WHO KNEW? (click to show/hide)

Don't know about Argentina (where he's from), but around here that means... something else.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

It means you're telling whomever is seeing that to get ass-fucked. Now you know!

[Frumple]

... yeah, in most parts of the states (that I'm aware of) it just means OK. Like how it looks.

e: Actually, now that I think of it, I'm not even sure if the US has any wide spread vulgar hand gestures for that. They're usually more generalized, at least from what I've bothered noticing.

[smjjames]

... yeah, in most parts of the states (that I'm aware of) it just means OK. Like how it looks.

e: Actually, now that I think of it, I'm not even sure if the US has any wide spread vulgar hand gestures for that. They're usually more generalized, at least from what I've bothered noticing.

Other than giving the middle finger?

[Frumple]

That's the main "more generalized" I was talking about

[Descan]

Finger doesn't mean like... "Go stick yourself on a cactus" or something, just means a generic "Ey buddeh, fook you eh?"

[darkrider2]

I imagine you don't really need more than one, besides if someones says "f**k you" or "get f***ked" I'm not really thinking there's a distinction between their intents. 

[evilcherry]

When will legalization of weed goes to a vote in the house in the first place?

Unless its 1. A definite Democrat issue 2. A definite Republican issue 3. The budget, what bills can come out of the committee and be actually put on the floor?

His voting record looks conservative because effectively "Pauls agree with the other Republicans" is a necessary condition for votes to actually take place.

The main point is what kind of conservative the article is talking about. Legalization of weed is Libertarian(in any sense) but not conservative(in the current US/UK Tory sense).

Which means you'd expect to see Paul's voting record more to the left. But you don't, not by a long shot.

EDIT: To be fair, some of that may be methodology and focus:

The libertarian-leaning Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky is rated as being extremely conservative by DW-Nominate and by Mr. Bonica’s method, which tend to give more emphasis to a candidate’s record on economic issues. But he is rated as fairly moderate by OnTheIssues.org, which also evaluates his stances on social policy.

DW-Nominate was used to generate the voting record rankings, while OnTheIssues was used to rank the public policy statements. So if these two weight differently based on economics vs. social policy, that may account for the divergence.