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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #4185 on: September 09, 2015, 09:20:09 am »

...Are you being sarcastic now?
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« Reply #4186 on: September 09, 2015, 09:31:07 am »

...Are you being sarcastic now?

No...
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #4187 on: September 09, 2015, 09:49:52 am »

Huh.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #4188 on: September 09, 2015, 11:07:06 am »

So interestingly, the nomination race is starting to creep into North Carolina, with Bernie Sanders in Greensboro this Sunday, and Jeb Bush in Garner (a suburb of Raleigh) this afternoon.

In past cycles, we were an afterthought at best because the state's primary was in early May, long after the primaries were typically decided. But two years ago, our harebrained legislature passed a law moving the primary date to the first Tuesday after the SC primary. Which moved us up to February 23 and crossed a line in the sand that the RNC had made, that nobody could jump ahead of Super Tuesday (other than the states already traditionally out in front) or they'd be penalized half their delegates to the convention.

The DNC had a similar rule but didn't threaten to enforce it, as the legislature is overwhelmingly Republican, meaning that Democrats had no role in the snafu and no way to reverse it.
The legislature eventually caved and untethered it from SC, but was facing a $10 million+ pricetag to hold two separate primaries -- one for President, and the rest of the races on May 3 as usual.

So now they're planning on moving ALL the primaries (including local and statewide races) to March 15. Which has some interesting spillover benefits for incumbents in that it doesn't give their opponents nearly as much time to organize and campaign. Another change that was made is that previously our delegates were a proportional allocation. Now the GOP is planning on rewriting the primary law so that it's a winner-take-all event. We're so fucking desperate to be relevant that we've basically dipped ourselves in chocolate, put on a red satin bow, and called out "Yoo-hoo, come get me, boys!" in a sexy voice. (Which, considering the people doing this are almost entirely flabby old white guys...yeah, I'm sorry for the mental image).

The DNC also forbids winner-take-all allocation, but again...the DNC is not likely to penalize North Carolina because the Dems here are utterly powerless.

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In a side piece, one of my former professors had an op-ed piece locally that called into question the recent SurveyUSA poll that showed Trump beating Clinton (the one that I said was an outlier and not to take too seriously). One of the things he noticed was that in the crosstabs, it showed 31% of Hispanics saying they would vote for Trump. The same Trump that seems determined to get 0% of the Hispanic vote. He noted that Romney only got 27% of the Hispanic vote, and there's no reason to think Trump is more well-liked in the Hispanic community than Romney was. Especially given the plethora of data showing Trump has ridiculously low favorability ratings with them.

It also showed 25% of African-Americans voting for Trump, when Democrats have won 90+% of the black vote for every candidate in the last 50 years. Again, no significant reason to think Trump would more than double the best Republican showing in the last half-century with black voters.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #4189 on: September 09, 2015, 11:11:29 am »

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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #4190 on: September 09, 2015, 11:29:58 am »

Garner (a suburb of Raleigh)
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Hey, it's up to 27K population...I'd say that qualifies. It's not like it's Lizard Lick.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #4192 on: September 09, 2015, 12:22:29 pm »

It's not like it's Lizard Lick.
Sounds like a fine place to start a business.
*cough*

And yeah, it's a real place. And it's only about 30 minutes from downtown Raleigh. You transition from urban->rural->"paddle faster, I hear banjos" disturbingly fast in this state.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #4193 on: September 09, 2015, 12:40:26 pm »

And after that you get to the other Carolina. HEYOO
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #4194 on: September 09, 2015, 01:00:40 pm »

And if you go too far north you end up in virginia instead.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #4195 on: September 09, 2015, 07:32:42 pm »

You know, it would be nice if there was a candidate who was anti-establishment like trump and carson, strong like Teddy Roosevelt (or at least stronger than Obama for one), but not foaming with BS like trump is........

I'm just getting that off my chest and yes I know we gotta deal with the cards that we got dealt, so to speak.

Also, I feel like the Democrat debate can't come soon enough..........
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #4196 on: September 09, 2015, 07:33:43 pm »

You know, it would be nice if there was a candidate who was anti-establishment like trump and carson, strong like Teddy Roosevelt (or at least stronger than Obama for one), but not foaming with BS like trump is........
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« Reply #4197 on: September 09, 2015, 07:58:29 pm »

You know, it would be nice if there was a candidate who was anti-establishment like trump and carson, strong like Teddy Roosevelt (or at least stronger than Obama for one), but not foaming with BS like trump is........
RONPAUL2012?

I said NOT foaming with BS. Also, he's a massive isolationist.

Edit: Also, Trump went there and criticized Carly Fiorinas looks (who looks no worse than Hillary TBH), pfft. My response would be 'Have you ever looked in a mirror? You're not exactly young yourself.' The pundits say it may or may not ruin Trump, but I would just give it a momentary O.o and go pfft, and move on since it's just another political attack and the usual that you get from Trump.

He's pretty much broken all the golden rules of campaigning by now.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #4198 on: September 09, 2015, 11:24:01 pm »

Trump's just riding a wave of "fuck the system", I imagine his shit will get old real quick as we approach the nominations.
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« Reply #4199 on: September 09, 2015, 11:47:31 pm »

Trump's just riding a wave of "fuck the system", I imagine his shit will get old real quick as we approach the nominations.
No, it won't.  Cause the system, as many people see it, has been malfunctioning for a while now.
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