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Re: Donald Trump's Narcissism Appreciation Megathread
« Reply #3675 on: August 20, 2015, 10:25:33 am »

It might not be the best analogy since nobody's died yet.
... well, none of the politicians, anyway. The sort of hateful rhetoric that's largely propagated by that general bundle of our political system is almost definitely getting people killed.

Case in point, we're already up about 150% on murdered transgendered folks compared to the entirety of last year, apparently, and we've still got a good few months to go. To the extent there's something fair about that, it's along the lines of 17 vs 12, iirc, but that still means the violent death rate per month has something like doubled. Maybe it's coincidental, but it'll be interesting to see if the rate drops back down after the campaigning cools off again.

Be interesting to see if the messages being spewed around are having an effect on things, really. Anyone want to take a bet that hate crimes have gone up since the campaigning started? There some place that's tracking that kind of information?
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Re: Donald Trump's Narcissism Appreciation Megathread
« Reply #3676 on: August 20, 2015, 10:35:25 am »


That is precisely what a shill for Donald "I am literally Hitler" Trump would say.
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« Reply #3677 on: August 20, 2015, 10:37:35 am »

Another Nazi Donald. Explain that, Trump shills!
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Re: Donald Trump's Narcissism Appreciation Megathread
« Reply #3678 on: August 20, 2015, 11:03:00 am »


That is precisely what a shill for Donald "I am literally Hitler" Trump would say.

Yeah, cuz Trump is being persecuted by people who dont want to Make America Great Again.
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Re: Donald Trump's Narcissism Appreciation Megathread
« Reply #3679 on: August 20, 2015, 12:57:21 pm »


That is precisely what a shill for Donald "I am literally Hitler" Trump would say.

Yeah, cuz Trump is being persecuted by people who dont want to Make America Great Again.
And that is in fact the insane troll logic at work in many corners of the Net right now. Anyone who criticizes The Donald is either an America-hating liberal socialist fag, or worse a cuckservative Quisling worried about what a bunch of namby-pamby liberals are gonna call them. Didn't you know? There's a massive conspiracy between the Democrats, the RNC, Rupert Murdoch, Mexico, the NWO Jew bankers and the LGBT Mafia to take down Trump because he's the only thing standing between them and their goal of making America unlivable for straight, white, true conservative Christian males. The only thing I haven't seen uttered yet is "wake up sheeple", but the season is still young.

Thankfully, as a bi liberal non-Christian male, I get free admission to the Conspiracy's happy hour parties, so I'm cool with it.
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Re: Donald Trump's Narcissism Appreciation Megathread
« Reply #3681 on: August 20, 2015, 01:51:53 pm »


That is precisely what a shill for Donald "I am literally Hitler" Trump would say.

Yeah, cuz Trump is being persecuted by people who dont want to Make America Great Again.
And that is in fact the insane troll logic at work in many corners of the Net right now. Anyone who criticizes The Donald is either an America-hating liberal socialist fag, or worse a cuckservative Quisling worried about what a bunch of namby-pamby liberals are gonna call them. Didn't you know? There's a massive conspiracy between the Democrats, the RNC, Rupert Murdoch, Mexico, the NWO Jew bankers and the LGBT Mafia to take down Trump because he's the only thing standing between them and their goal of making America unlivable for straight, white, true conservative Christian males. The only thing I haven't seen uttered yet is "wake up sheeple", but the season is still young.

Thankfully, as a bi liberal non-Christian male, I get free admission to the Conspiracy's happy hour parties, so I'm cool with it.

What do you mean bi-liberal? Unless you meant the other bi (which I don't have a problem with).
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« Reply #3682 on: August 20, 2015, 01:56:12 pm »

Yeah, the other bi. (By way of pointing out the ways in which I belong to various subgroups which are supposedly part of the Forces of Darkness striving to Make America Not Great.)

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Not half as interesting as the keep/delete discussion linked from the talk page. For instance, I never knew that the Cato Institute was considered leftist. By anyone.
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Re: Donald Trump's Narcissism Appreciation Megathread
« Reply #3683 on: August 20, 2015, 03:57:43 pm »

Well, to be fair everyone from the GOP to liberals are currently bashing Trump. The way some of the questions at the debate were framed to make him look bad would be disgraceful if he was a real candidate.
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« Reply #3684 on: August 20, 2015, 04:01:20 pm »

I don't know that they were framed to make him look bad so much as "make him look like Donald Trump".
The fact that the ground state of Trump is "raging douchenozzle" is not the fault of those who point out this fact.
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« Reply #3685 on: August 20, 2015, 04:05:38 pm »

So, what's up in your Congress? I'm still amazed that you guys effectively stop caring about what your government is doing two years out of four in favor of watching the horserace to see who will decide what the country will do next.
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« Reply #3686 on: August 20, 2015, 04:40:25 pm »

I'm pretty sure that Congress is pretty much dividing it's attention between the horse race and the deal with Iran. A few key Democratic senators have recently come out against it, as I recall, but the source I got that from has an interest in overstating opposition to the thing.
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« Reply #3687 on: August 20, 2015, 04:46:24 pm »

Yeah, just as the ground state for Trump is douchenozzle, the ground state for Congress is null.

I kinda forget we have a Congress at times, because most impact in the last couple of years has come either from executive orders, Supreme Court decisions, or state governments. They've gridlocked themselves into irrelevancy in some ways. Which is not a good thing, I'm not a fan of the "government by executive order" thing myself -- not because "OMG OBAMA = HITLER" -- but because executive orders have no staying power. They can easily be undone by the next President. Congressional action is far more permanent and more difficult to repeal.

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Re: Donald Trump's Narcissism Appreciation Megathread
« Reply #3688 on: August 20, 2015, 04:54:58 pm »

Yeah but when unelected bureaucrats set rules, they are gonna stick around until we get republicans signing up to work for the EPA.
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« Reply #3689 on: August 20, 2015, 05:15:24 pm »

Not always. The EPA being a great example. Republican administrations appoint Republican directors, which then move to undo a great deal of regulation in place from previous administrations. Likewise, Democratic administrations appoint Democratic bureaucrats who push Democratic agendas. Agency regulations aren't that much more stable than executive orders, they just take longer to change.

And because there's no voting bloc to worry about, they don't even need to convince anyone, the electorate or the legislature. And Congress can pass laws to override, limit or repeal agency regulations.
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