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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Was Inevitable
« Reply #2670 on: June 30, 2015, 02:03:35 pm »
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Re: Bay12 2016 Electron Megathread- It Was Inevitable
« Reply #2671 on: June 30, 2015, 02:15:06 pm »
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The Atlantic on the GOP's inability to produce a decent presidential candidate.


When has the post-Theodore Roosevelt GOP ever produced a decent candidate?

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Sure, some of his positions (Native Americans in particular) were colored by the racism of his time and would make him a problematic candidate today. Actually, it seems to be mostly Native Americans and other 'indengenes' that he was racist against. Plus really imperialist.

Yes he had his faults, but who doesn't.

Eisenhower was pretty much okay.

Ford was, um, sort of around neutral?

Also, you'd have to do research on those who were also candidates for each election to really say that for sure. Maybe there were some decent candidates (for their timeperiod), they just weren't the ones who ended up getting elected.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Electron Megathread- It Was Inevitable
« Reply #2672 on: June 30, 2015, 03:54:15 pm »
Herbert Hoover was an excellent candidate.  Wendell Wilkie was pretty close to FDR, a little less racist and a little more isolationist.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Electron Megathread- It Was Inevitable
« Reply #2673 on: June 30, 2015, 04:18:47 pm »
Herbert "Free Market Will Fix The Depression Plebs" Hoover?
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« Reply #2674 on: June 30, 2015, 04:39:36 pm »
He also wanted Roosevelt to continue the gold standard, which Roosevelt didn't do.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Electron Megathread- It Was Inevitable
« Reply #2675 on: June 30, 2015, 04:51:43 pm »
Quote from: MetalSlimeHunt on June 30, 2015, 04:18:47 pm
Herbert "Free Market Will Fix The Depression Plebs" Hoover?

Yuuuuup.  The one flaw to an otherwise excellent public servant.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Electron Megathread- It Was Inevitable
« Reply #2676 on: June 30, 2015, 06:41:46 pm »
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Herbert "Free Market Will Fix The Depression Plebs" Hoover?

Yuuuuup.  The one flaw to an otherwise excellent public servant.
That's one big flaw. It certainly outweighed any positives he brought to America, from a utilitarian standpoint.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Electron Megathread- It Was Inevitable
« Reply #2677 on: June 30, 2015, 06:53:06 pm »
That's a bit like saying Hitler was an excellent Chancellor, except for that "conquer all of Europe and kill all the Jews" flaw.

Yeah, I went Godwin on Hoover.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Electron Megathread- It Was Inevitable
« Reply #2678 on: June 30, 2015, 08:14:51 pm »
I was evaluating Hoover as a candidate.  As a candidate his biggest flaw was not being correct about circumstances that had never been seen before.  Afterwards we can see it's a situation that 2 out of 43 presidents have faced.  So the downside with Hoover is that %2.5 of the time he is unfit.  But what about the other %97.5?  Excellent administrator, history of fostering cooperation, hardworking, idealistic; all in all a lot better then most.
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« Reply #2679 on: June 30, 2015, 08:25:16 pm »
just interjecting with more trump news.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/06/30/418990895/donald-trump-sues-univision-for-500-million

"Trump is seeking $500 million, and that in the suit, Trump claims Univision is attempting to suppress his freedom of speech"

the thing he was dropped over saying was: 'They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.'

so yaaaaa
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« Reply #2680 on: June 30, 2015, 08:56:02 pm »
Can't wait to see what his foriegn policy is, outside of Mexico and the immigration issue.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Electron Megathread- It Was Inevitable
« Reply #2681 on: June 30, 2015, 11:41:43 pm »
Loooool. Well, so much for that.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Electron Megathread- It Was Inevitable
« Reply #2682 on: July 01, 2015, 12:44:07 am »
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« Reply #2683 on: July 01, 2015, 03:25:52 am »
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I caught this lovely picture on the site for the biggest Finnish newspaper a few days ago - article about the whole Trump fiasco. Looks like you don't even need to pretend to take him seriously here!
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« Reply #2684 on: July 01, 2015, 10:02:42 am »
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I caught this lovely picture on the site for the biggest Finnish newspaper a few days ago - article about the whole Trump fiasco. Looks like you don't even need to pretend to take him seriously here!

What does that text translate to?

Also, I wonder if any of the Republican candidates will attempt to reverse the progress with the new relationship that we are having with Cuba? I'm not against the new relationship, heck, I welcome it, I'm just wondering since the Republicans are like 'Roll back everything Obama did!!!!!1!11!!!!11!1'. Well, not quite everything, but I think you guys know what I mean in general.
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