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[Dutchling]

It would be refreshing to hear about "those poor kids in America" instead of Africa for a change too

[lijacote]

I don't think it's even possible that a genuine working class socialist would rise from the ranks of either of the two parties. These people don't show up from nowhere, and an actor like that would not be in line with what both of the parties actually want.

[SirQuiamus]

What about Doc Carson? That's technically working class. unless you mean middle class/lower class.

Mike Huckabee is/was a minister, but I don't know how 'working class' he is.

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/05/04/3646780/ben-carson-announcement/

After appearing on The View last year and saying that Americans have become dependent on welfare, Carson elaborated on Fox News. “Do you think that people who are on welfare want to be on welfare?” Fox’s Megyn Kelly asked him.

“I think some people have that as a way of life,” Carson responded, later adding that “perhaps some of the things that are going on right now which could be easily remedied are not being remedied in order to keep the economy depressed because there would be no appetite for many of the social programs if people were doing well.”

Yep, he's literally working class. Fuck those unemployed freeloaders.

Also:

http://www.gq.com/news-politics/newsmakers/201504/ben-carson-tea-party

"Perhaps we can move over here," the lieutenant colonel suggested, steering Carson's group to a quieter spot to discuss the nearby Syrian civil war. He claimed that most of the Islamist fighters weren't Syrian but came from Morocco and Europe. "It's just like the troublemakers in Ferguson," Carson said, betraying a habit of wedging the unfamiliar into a context he understands.

He's also a big fan of racial equality!

[nenjin]

What about Doc Carson? That's technically working class. unless you mean middle class/lower class.

Mike Huckabee is/was a minister, but I don't know how 'working class' he is.

Huckabee is a lying, philandering POS.

[FearfulJesuit]

Chaffee did work as a Farrier for seven years, but that was 30 years ago.

Chafee's loaded- he went to Andover.

[smjjames]

Chaffee did work as a Farrier for seven years, but that was 30 years ago.

Chafee's loaded- he went to Andover.

What do you mean by loaded?

What about Doc Carson? That's technically working class. unless you mean middle class/lower class.

Mike Huckabee is/was a minister, but I don't know how 'working class' he is.

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/05/04/3646780/ben-carson-announcement/

After appearing on The View last year and saying that Americans have become dependent on welfare, Carson elaborated on Fox News. “Do you think that people who are on welfare want to be on welfare?” Fox’s Megyn Kelly asked him.

“I think some people have that as a way of life,” Carson responded, later adding that “perhaps some of the things that are going on right now which could be easily remedied are not being remedied in order to keep the economy depressed because there would be no appetite for many of the social programs if people were doing well.”

Yep, he's literally working class. Fuck those unemployed freeloaders.

Also:

http://www.gq.com/news-politics/newsmakers/201504/ben-carson-tea-party

"Perhaps we can move over here," the lieutenant colonel suggested, steering Carson's group to a quieter spot to discuss the nearby Syrian civil war. He claimed that most of the Islamist fighters weren't Syrian but came from Morocco and Europe. "It's just like the troublemakers in Ferguson," Carson said, betraying a habit of wedging the unfamiliar into a context he understands.

He's also a big fan of racial equality!

Also, from that second link:
"The next day, Carson was standing on a pleasant hillside outside Jerusalem that overlooked a grove of olive trees; a shepherd tended his flock of sheep in the distance. Carson heard some noise from a construction site, and he flinched. "Was that machine-gun fire?" he asked."

His reaction is just lmao! lol.....

[FearfulJesuit]

Chaffee did work as a Farrier for seven years, but that was 30 years ago.

Chafee's loaded- he went to Andover.

What do you mean by loaded?

His family's got money. I think he had a Congressman for a grandfather, too.

[Jervill]

Well, you have to be loaded to be a governor, generally.  I don't even want to guess how much money my gov's family has. (His family founded the Target department stores and more).

Well, Sanders will be a nice protest vote in the caucus if he survives to this state at least.  Maybe it'll be enough to push Clinton to the left before the general.

[smjjames]

Guys, take a guess who Jeb Bush says is going to be one of his top foriegn policy advisors... Come on, three guesses.










Bush 43, George W Bush........ *megafacepalm*
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/07/politics/jeb-george-w-bush-adviser/

While it says that it seems to be limited to Israel, other sources say the Middle East. But even if it was specifically Israel, I STILL wouldn't use him as a top foriegn advisor.

Also, way for Jeb to hook up George W Bushes baggage to his campaign......

[Zangi]

Appointing family into top official positions.  That sort of thing sounds familiar...

[Aqizzar]

Also, way for Jeb to hook up George W Bushes baggage to his campaign......

I think he's banking on the George's miraculously sudden rise in opinion polling among very small numbers of absolute Republican primary voters.  Obviously that doesn't amount to anything, but Jeb's probably decided that he might as well acknowledge his brother's existence since he can't exactly sweep him under the rug.


Meanwhile, for anyone who didn't the aftermath of last week's declaration of martial law in Texas, former Governor and likely repeat Presidential also-ran His Imperial Majesty Richard Perry I had an immediate reaction to the new Governor's dispatch of the state guard.  Namely, don't try to turn the military into the bad guys.  On the one hand, I'm kind of impressed that Rick Perry actually managed to say something about the federal government that wasn't fucking insane, but on the other hand it is pretty damn sad when "not leveling guns at your own nation's troops" is the now bold and sensible side of an argument.

I'm not exactly sure why he felt the need to say anything, since it dilutes the Secession brand he made the state a laughingstock to cultivate, and probably won't make anybody who already didn't like him rethink the guy while costing him the vitally important paranoid-schizophrenic vote.  But I shouldn't complain too much about anybody actually using their fucking brains.

Spoiler: And in case you everybody in Texas politics is nuts: (click to show/hide)

[Frumple]

Woah, chinman. Welcome back?

And yeah, the texas situation has been... interesting. That was a fun letter, heh.

[smjjames]

Hey Aqizzar!, long time no see.

[mainiac]

Lo, the gray smoke is seen above the white house.  The nighttime light burns bright in the sky.  The beasts of the fields and birds of the air are restless.  Verily, the world turns and Aqizzar is seen once more to the Election Megathread.  The season of trials and tribulations returns once more.  Gird your loins and make fond tidings to your sisters and brothers for we can never know who will fall in the next age of darkness and madness.

[Aqizzar]

Bunch'a quote-unquote liberal politicians and business owners got together today in Washington to promote a big thinkpiece released by the "Roosevelt Institute", a sort of Keynesian mirror of the Cato Institute.  Specifically, it's an unabashedly American-Left-ist federal policy prescription, intended to be the Liberal version of the "Contract With America" of a generation past, and they're front and center with wanting the Democratic presidential candidates to talk about it.  You can read the 112 page playbook yourself.  I haven't yet since I'm typing this on my lunchbreak.  But from the summary, I can find three huge issues with this campaign that have nothing to do with the details of its proposals:

One reason the Contract With America was a great advertisement for its philosophical bent if not necessarily its content was that it was straight to the point and easy to digest.  The average voter's attention span is definitely not longer now that it was in 1994, and Newt Gingrich wrote it as an open letter to fit in one of the widest-read sources of information of its day, TV-Guide.  Yes, there actually used to be such a publication.  I have a hard time believing more than 1% of the people who even hear about this 112-page campaign will make it through the introduction.

The booklet and its sponsors repeatedly mention that piecemeal alterations and experimental compromises will not be sufficient for any of their plans to work, they must be implemented wholesale.  Any realist would say that's pretty fucking impossible in 2015 or the foreseeable future.  I'll give them a pass on that since people don't get fired up over hedging your bets and talking about a backup plan, but I would like to know if a backup plan exists.

And most of the bulletpoints the plan is built around all revolve on a very common theme.  Basically, stop thinking of wage-and-salary incomes as both the backbone of federal tax income and yet ancillary to 'real' economic growth, and go back to actually enforcing existing financial laws and regulations instead of leaving the banking and investment industry in charge of policing itself.  Obviously I haven't read the whole report yet, but I'm really hoping they devote some time to discussing exactly how and why those situations came be the accepted normal in the American economy, and more specifically how they intend to roll that back to their goalposts, and not just wish the world wasn't so.

It'll make some nice reading later.