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Author Topic: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée  (Read 1583300 times)

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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8625 on: December 23, 2015, 07:47:57 am »

It's like the burner wallet strategy, the open gun only has a magazine of over-packed blanks and the concealed gun has all the real bullets. They steal the open gun, blow their own hand off trying to shoot you, and then are shot with the concealed gun. It's genius!
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8626 on: December 23, 2015, 08:08:35 am »

In order to more perfectly emulate their cultural hero, Charles Bronson.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8627 on: December 23, 2015, 08:19:35 am »

It's like the burner wallet strategy, the open gun only has a magazine of over-packed blanks and the concealed gun has all the real bullets. They steal the open gun, blow their own hand off trying to shoot you, and then are shot with the concealed gun. It's genius!

I've always had trouble with my burner wallet. Certainly people gets upset at people carrying around thermite
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8629 on: December 23, 2015, 08:52:44 am »

Convenience maybe? You can just shove your gun at the bottom of your handbag, or wear a coat without having to check people can see your gun.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8630 on: December 23, 2015, 09:39:39 am »

That would be most of it, yes. Concealed carry permits also apply to weapons that aren't guns -- technically, if you're going to be toting a pocket knife of any meaningful size (which a lot of people do in more rural areas, because the things are damn useful), you require a CCW permit to do so legally in many states.

Now, basically no one does for that reason, and there is a shit ton of people in a lot of states that can be brought up on charges for that at pretty much a moment's notice, but it's another reason to have one.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8631 on: December 23, 2015, 09:49:17 am »

If law enforcement wants to nail anyone for something, there's always something. At the lower levels we have disorderly conduct and resisting arrest, then various other things as the person who wants to nail you to the wall gets more powerful. Interfering with a Federal investigation is one of the easier ones, but there's a good list of them, if the wrong prosecutor decides to take a dislike to you.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8632 on: December 23, 2015, 10:14:21 am »

It's like the burner wallet strategy, the open gun only has a magazine of over-packed blanks and the concealed gun has all the real bullets. They steal the open gun, blow their own hand off trying to shoot you, and then are shot with the concealed gun. It's genius!
I suppose you could just open carry a cow executioner full of blanks, that removes fingers with or without bullets

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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8633 on: December 23, 2015, 11:58:55 am »

On a societal level, it could also function as a disincentive to crime against strangers.  If any random person has a significant chance of hiding a gun that they could and would use to injure or kill any attacker, a mugger would conceivably avoid mugging people based on opportunity alone, which protects those who do not themselves conceal-carry.

In theory, at least.  Obviously, in practice is another matter.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8634 on: December 23, 2015, 12:24:18 pm »

An issue being there's nothing stopping the mugger from also carrying a concealed weapon with which to mug you :0
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8635 on: December 23, 2015, 12:27:37 pm »

And interesting note:
http://www.eschatonblog.com/2015/12/its-grift.html

What if Rubios lack of experience on the national scene means he is wasting money on useless campaign people?
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8636 on: December 23, 2015, 12:30:18 pm »

An issue being there's nothing stopping the mugger from also carrying a concealed weapon with which to mug you :0
Nothing ever stopping a mugger from doing so

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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8637 on: December 23, 2015, 12:33:39 pm »

I don't get the logic for carrying a concealed weapon to protect against a mugger. The mugger(s) is going to already have their weapon out & they are not exactly going to let you rummage around in your handbag to get the weapon out.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8638 on: December 23, 2015, 12:36:52 pm »

Nothing ever stopping a mugger from doing so

Well it's illegal.  The law probably does about as much deterrence of mugging as the guns do utterance of muggings but if the police do happen to detain someone with a concealed gun in a state where it's illegal that person can be put in jail.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8639 on: December 23, 2015, 12:53:49 pm »

Which is fairly common, so far as I'm aware. You pretty regularly hear about folks booked (at least in part) for weapons carry or violating probation for similar reasons. Debatable how much that's a good thing, considering it's often in regards to folks that are otherwise non-violent or didn't commit other law violations, but it happens.
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