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Author Topic: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée  (Read 1570088 times)

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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8130 on: December 15, 2015, 11:20:43 am »

Carson is optimistic about a focus on foreign policy/national security.

We shall see.... we shall see....   And the same goes for Trump, if Wolf Blitzer can get some straight answers out of him.

Really, I am hoping that he isn't given a chance to fade out when foriegn policy becomes the subject like he was able to in the last CNN debate.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8131 on: December 15, 2015, 01:14:05 pm »

Oh, imma have to pop some popcorn for this shiznit. Bet Carson has been working hard to memorize some canned foreign policy responses. Let's see how hard he tries to shoehorn them into questions that don't fit.

"Dr. Carson, how would you respond to increased aggression by China in the Sprately Islands?"
"Umm....well, you know, Hamas (NOT hummus) is a major player in the region and I think we have to work to isolate them."
"Are you suggesting that Hamas is active in the Sprately Islands?"
".....I have an intelligence source...."


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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8132 on: December 15, 2015, 01:29:02 pm »

Yeah, the last two paragraphs in the article I linked sound rather scripted and generic.

Also, in the seven point plan which is supposed to be Carson's plan, he says 'President Obama and Congress' in point 6 http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ben-carson-calls-declaration-war-isis/story?id=35777866  Uh, Carson, isn't the plan supposed to be YOUR plan and not a proposal to Obama?
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8133 on: December 15, 2015, 01:39:52 pm »

Look, if that kind of play is how carson gets his jollies at that age, so long as it's not hurting anyone we shouldn't judge. Even if it's bleeding over to stated policy.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8134 on: December 15, 2015, 01:45:08 pm »

I'd love to see Sanders pull an Obama, but it ain't gonna happen. People aren't going to flock to the idea of "Oooh! We could be a part of electing the 44th white male President!" the way they did Obama.

He's Jewish, that's a first. Though it may actually hurt his chances with certain demographics that typically vote blue.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8135 on: December 15, 2015, 01:53:08 pm »

Meh, Jews are typically blue voters. And he's not a particularly pro-Israeli Jew to my knowledge, so I doubt that would hurt him with anti-Israel voters. If anything, Clinton is more hawkish on Israel than Sanders.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8136 on: December 15, 2015, 01:59:06 pm »

I'd love to see Sanders pull an Obama, but it ain't gonna happen. People aren't going to flock to the idea of "Oooh! We could be a part of electing the 44th white male President!" the way they did Obama.

He's Jewish, that's a first. Though it may actually hurt his chances with certain demographics that typically vote blue.

I think you mean red? Unless you mean his stance on Israel which he hasn't really given.

He's also said that he's not a religious person and doesn't talk about his religion all that much. Aside from certain red voting demographics, I don't see his religion actually being a problem.

Meh, Jews are typically blue voters. And he's not a particularly pro-Israeli Jew to my knowledge, so I doubt that would hurt him with anti-Israel voters. If anything, Clinton is more hawkish on Israel than Sanders.

Oh that demographic.

Given the shift to foriegn policy as a topic, I wonder if there will be a question or two on Israel at the democratic debate later this weekend.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8137 on: December 15, 2015, 02:03:45 pm »

To me, there is no contest between Sanders and Clinton.

Clinton: will say anything to get elected, use buzzwords, no real change.

Sanders: will curb-stomp Wall Street lobbyists out of Washington. And do stuff with education and healthcare,... oh and let's not forget... actually tax the rich, since we've established a few years ago that Reaganomics "trickle down effect" is literally pissing on the poor.

Also of note, Sanders' campaign website has a kickstarter vibe to it. Which is a good, democratic grass-roots thing.

I'd love to see it turn politics around in this country.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8138 on: December 15, 2015, 02:09:42 pm »

I'd love to see it turn politics around in this country.

I was like you once....then I took politics to the knee.  :-\
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8139 on: December 15, 2015, 02:14:21 pm »

Does Sanders voting record actually reflect that though? Not saying you're wrong on Clinton, just saying you should check if his actions reflect what he says.

Also, apparently both the LA and NYC school district email threats have both been traced to Germany, wtf.

Hopefully whoever is behind that gets extradited to the US (if applicable) and gets smacked with the law hard to give future potential pranksters the hint not to try that kind of thing because AFAIK, this is the first time it's happened on this scale AND coming from overseas.

Probably not the first time such a hoax came from overseas, but still.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8140 on: December 15, 2015, 02:23:51 pm »

I'm going to laugh if it turns out the hoaxes are being done by some German kid to get his internet friends out of school for a day.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8141 on: December 15, 2015, 02:29:07 pm »

What's that threat thing?
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8143 on: December 15, 2015, 02:36:51 pm »

I'm going to laugh if it turns out the hoaxes are being done by some German kid to get his internet friends out of school for a day.
The precedent would be a Dutch girl threatening to bomb an airport. She thought she was safe when she blocked the FBI's twitter, but alas, they tipped off the Dutch police who arrested her. It'd be a sour Kraut that hoaxes Murrica

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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #8144 on: December 15, 2015, 02:37:29 pm »

Does Sanders voting record actually reflect that though? Not saying you're wrong on Clinton, just saying you should check if his actions reflect what he says.

Yup. He's been a socialist liberal since dinosaurs ruled the Earth.

If there's anything to know about Sanders, it's his reliable track record. He's a grumpy old man, set in his ways.
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