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Author Topic: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée  (Read 1586536 times)

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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #480 on: February 22, 2015, 12:15:13 am »

Chomsky's tendency to support "left-wing" causes without analysis unfortunately extends beyond the Khmer Rouge, he also has spoken out in favor of the Chinese system and seems to fall for the "unconditionally anti-Israel pro-Palestine" line of thought (I'll grant that he's also spoken for binational peace between Israelis and Palestinians, but a little bit of knowledge is dangerous and all that). Older members of the US left often have a hard-on for exotic genocidal revolutionaries. I think it comes from an inflamed contrarianism.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #481 on: February 22, 2015, 12:20:12 am »

http://belfercenter.ksg.harvard.edu/files/Meselsonchapter.pdf

The elevated toxin samples from blood and urine were all handled by the same lab the State Department based their claims on, a toxicology lab at the University of Minnesota which they contracted for the tests. No other lab around the world was ever able to replicate the results. But, reading more, i think this could have been due to contamination at the lab in question. Since all the toxins found in the samples were also toxins that the particular lab used for research.

So, accidental contanimation by the testing lab? Of course, the bias is then in taking this one lab with shitty controls as the gold standard, and dismissing contradictory evidence from hundreds of other labs both elsewhere in the USA and worldwide. It sort of seems unlikely that only this one lab was able to detect anything, and that it just happened to solely consist of the same of chemicals the lab had on site in abundance.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #482 on: February 22, 2015, 12:37:21 am »

... it would be mildly pleasing if both chomsky and more or less irrelevant (to current politics) history would both bugger off for another thread.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #483 on: February 22, 2015, 12:40:53 am »

Well yeah, but most of these topics don't really have somewhere to put them. We don't need a chomsky thread and there's no american history thread, or american politics thread in general that's not related to elections.

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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #484 on: February 22, 2015, 01:39:52 am »

chomsky thread

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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #485 on: February 22, 2015, 01:43:16 am »

chomsky thread

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What?
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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #486 on: February 22, 2015, 02:02:31 am »

Chomsky is very good at what he does.

What he does is anti-US, anti-free market propaganda.

And that's all I've got to say about that.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #487 on: February 22, 2015, 07:50:57 am »

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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #488 on: February 22, 2015, 08:31:38 am »

I read a couple Chomsky books, and I don't remember any claims of a conspiracy. Widespread bias, yeah, but no conspiracy.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #489 on: February 22, 2015, 08:50:29 am »

Well yeah, but most of these topics don't really have somewhere to put them. We don't need a chomsky thread and there's no american history thread, or american politics thread in general that's not related to elections.

Isn't this still the general American politics thread? I've seen people post non-election stuff a couple times.

I'd say this is still the American politics megathread. At least until the op says otherwise.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #490 on: February 22, 2015, 09:45:06 am »

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It worked for Ted Bundy, didn't it?
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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #491 on: February 22, 2015, 01:56:34 pm »

I think general US politics is fine in here for the time being, since the election season is still on a low simmer.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #492 on: February 22, 2015, 02:10:43 pm »

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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #493 on: February 22, 2015, 02:56:41 pm »

Well... yeah. But maybe not politics from decades ago? Or at least only inasmuch as there some significant connection between back then and now. Not political history thread, y'know? Unless FJ changes the title, anyway.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #494 on: February 22, 2015, 04:03:37 pm »

OP checking in here. Pretty much any US political discussion, or reasonable tangents thereto, is fine. The alternative this far from the election is thread death, and there's no reason to have competing US politics threads.

I'm additionally going to go on record as saying that my one request for a thread split (the one about three weeks ago about education) was ill-thought out and that I'm not going to do that again unless other thread commenters ask for it.
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