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[mainiac]

Because Obama doesn't mean it, obviously.

[Loud Whispers]

But what's the point of a meaningless threat?

[mainiac]

To demonstrate what a bad president he is.

[Loud Whispers]

But this makes no sense?!!!

[Orange Wizard]

Obamarama's been threatening to isolate China ever since the TPP was a thing.

[mainiac]

But this makes no sense?!!!

He flaunts what a bad president he is just to make Trump even madder.

[Frumple]

tl;dr, the next person you encounter that says we should be spending less on immigration services, you can assume is some combination of ignorant, malicious, or incredibly stupid.

Turns out we're apparently spending less than fucking nothing! Another point of info explaining how our immigrants (documented or not) are managing to be a net economic gain.

Though the question relative to the discussion, I guess, is if we're managing to make more money off them than qatar does through their effective slaving efforts :V

[Orange Wizard]

Welcome to America: Better than Qatar (TM)

[Dorsidwarf]

Welcome To America: We're Ten Times Better Than Burkina Faso, We Must Be The Best Out There

[MarcAFK]

Democratic party is stronkest at democracticising http://boingboing.net/2016/06/03/california-democratic-primary.html
(I suck at linking with words explaining linky thing)

TooLazyDontRedirect: Democratic Party send out generally uncounted dummy ballots to no party preference voters because they'll probably go and do something silly like vote for sanders in the primary.

[Sheb]

Democratic party is stronkest at democracticising http://boingboing.net/2016/06/03/california-democratic-primary.html
(I suck at linking with words explaining linky thing)

TooLazyDontRedirect: Democratic Party send out generally uncounted dummy ballots to no party preference voters because they'll probably go and do something silly like vote for sanders in the primary.

It isn't clear who gave those instructions though.

[penguinofhonor]

I've read that provisional ballots are counted as normal votes, so "dummy ballots" is quite misleading.

[Frumple]

Uh, last I ran into 'em, yeah. Mostly. Iirc there's some kind of vetting thing before they're officially counted, but they still can be. You would be casting a provisional vote if you showed up to vote sans ID, ferex, from what I recall.

[mainiac]

TooLazyDontRedirect: Democratic Party send out generally uncounted dummy ballots to no party preference voters because they'll probably go and do something silly like vote for sanders in the primary.

Step 1) Assume that all unknowns are due to malice
Step 2) Get butthurt

[sluissa]

Last I heard the provisional ballots aren't even looked at unless the closeness of the "real" votes demands a recount. But this was from a previous election cycle, things could have changed.

The assumption being that if one candidate won by a decent margin the provisional ballots aren't going to change anything as they'd more or less follow the same pattern.