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[Shadowlord]

This is concerning.

Mrs. Clinton is pressing ahead with a conventional campaign, echoing the 2012 themes used against the Republican nominee that year, Mitt Romney. But Mr. Trump is running a jarringly different crusade: accusing her husband, former President Bill Clinton, of rape; proposing that the country conduct brutal methods of torture; and suggesting that South Korea and Japan be permitted to develop nuclear arms. Prominent Democrats say a more provocative approach is needed.

“The guy’s a maniac,” John Burton, the chairman of the California Democratic Party, said about Mr. Trump. Referring to a famous 1964 political message, he said, “You could run the old L.B.J. ad against Goldwater, with ‘Three, two, one,’ and a hydrogen bomb blows up with a little girl counting daisies.”

DO IT.

P.S. Click through to the article, mainiac. I look forward to hearing you say that she's doing fine and doing exactly what she should be doing already.

[mainiac]

P.S. Click through to the article, mainiac. I look forward to hearing you say that she's doing fine and doing exactly what she should be doing already.

I would say that people have a tendency to overreact, yes.

Dont just do something!  Stand there!

[sluissa]

Bernie Sanders moves toward a fight over Israel, forcing Hillary Clinton to navigate a splintered party

[Vilanat]

Bernie sanders doesn't give a damn about Israel or the palestinians (Evident by his extreme ignorance as shown a month or so ago), he just, like any good old politician, sees an opening and takes it.

If Americans pick their candidate over who's side they are with the Israeli-Arab conflict, then you guys are stupid. pick what's best for you, not what's best for some Israeli or Arab lobbyists.

[wobbly]

Bernie sanders doesn't give a damn about Israel or the palestinians (Evident by his extreme ignorance as shown a month or so ago), he just, like any good old politician, sees an opening and takes it.

If Americans pick their candidate over who's side they are with the Israeli-Arab conflict, then you guys are stupid. pick what's best for you, not what's best for some Israeli or Arab lobbyists.

Haven't been following closely. Link to what he said/did a month ago?

[Frumple]

I guess this? First thing google popped up about sanders and israel in april.

[mainiac]

Bernie sanders doesn't give a damn about Israel or the palestinians (Evident by his extreme ignorance as shown a month or so ago), he just, like any good old politician, sees an opening and takes it.

Such cynicism.  So edgy, wow.

I would like to congratulate all the Sanders supporters.  When people start making attacks like this against a candidate you know their message has gone mainstream.

[sluissa]

Bernie sanders doesn't give a damn about Israel or the palestinians (Evident by his extreme ignorance as shown a month or so ago), he just, like any good old politician, sees an opening and takes it.

If Americans pick their candidate over who's side they are with the Israeli-Arab conflict, then you guys are stupid. pick what's best for you, not what's best for some Israeli or Arab lobbyists.

My bigger problem is that all our politicians on both sides of the spectrum love to kiss Israeli ass at any opportunity. I'm just glad to see one that doesn't get some attention for an instant. It's not the issue that's going to make up my mind, but all other things being equal, I'd rather see us drop our support of Israel... if not completely then to some extent.

[Vilanat]

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/transcript-bernie-sanders-meets-news-editorial-board-article-1.2588306

He talked about Israel killing 10K innocent people in Gaza in the latest war which was started by Hamas. the real numbers are closer to 2000 dead total, at least of which were Hamas operatives. i won't go into conflicting distribution of those casualties because it's not interesting but suffice to say that any figure given by any international agency and/or human rights organizations are taken from the palestinians authority data. in Gaza, the flourishing democracy that it is, the palestinian authority is basically Hamas, an ISIS like organization that seeks to establish an Islamic Caliphate in the middle east. the numbers are not the real issue, the real issue is that this guy just kept contradicting himself over and over.

One of his other bright recurring themes is that you need to treat the palestinians equally in order to achieve peace in the Middle East. it is tiring old formula that basically blames the existence of Israel in everything wrong with the Middle East, a formula that falls apart every oh, couple of months. this time it is especially evident seeing how Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Libya and Lebanon goes to the shit with nothing to do with Israel. the bitter truth is that the Arabs are more than capable of doing that to themselves, far better and harder than Israel could have ever done to them.

The bottom line is that the man is clueless in everything related to the Middle East but he allow himself to issue those statements because he wants the Arab/Muslim voters which are far more effective than the Jewish voters, because we Jews still can't decide over the People's front for Judea or Judea's people front.

I am not sure if he will be good for the U.S, i used to think so, but then he started to seem like an empty socialist slogan (Before and unrelated to his remarks about Israel).

Bernie sanders doesn't give a damn about Israel or the palestinians (Evident by his extreme ignorance as shown a month or so ago), he just, like any good old politician, sees an opening and takes it.

If Americans pick their candidate over who's side they are with the Israeli-Arab conflict, then you guys are stupid. pick what's best for you, not what's best for some Israeli or Arab lobbyists.

My bigger problem is that all our politicians on both sides of the spectrum love to kiss Israeli ass at any opportunity. I'm just glad to see one that doesn't get some attention for an instant. It's not the issue that's going to make up my mind, but all other things being equal, I'd rather see us drop our support of Israel... if not completely then to some extent.

Good thing i don't give a damn what you think if you wish to support ISIS/Hamas, its perfectly your right.

[Frumple]

Please take this shit to some other thread. The israel/palestine thing has been tread over repeatedly, and ended up getting a number of threads locked due to folks that couldn't keep their bloody xenophobia in their pants. Let's not do that again, here, yeah?

[Shadowlord]

Haha, you linked to the new york daily news article wherein the nydn interviewers demonstrate their lack of familiarity with shit?

Let us dispel with this fiction that Bernie sanders doesn't know what he's doing. Bernie Sanders knows exactly what he's doing.

FTFY.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

We actually don't talk about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict very much. Not that I think we could without repeatedly calling for genocide, but we don't.

[sluissa]

Please take this shit to some other thread. The israel/palestine thing has been tread over repeatedly, and ended up getting a number of threads locked due to folks that couldn't keep their bloody xenophobia in their pants. Let's not do that again, here, yeah?

How about you stop playing thread police. I'm tired of you telling people what they can or can't say.

Just one correction to:

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/transcript-bernie-sanders-meets-news-editorial-board-article-1.2588306

He talked about Israel killing 10K innocent people in Gaza in the latest war which was started by Hamas.

He was corrected during that same interview and didn't argue with the corrected numbers. And when he gave the 10k number he even qualified it with an " I don't have it in my number...but I think" It's all in the linked interview.

[Shadowlord]

According to the main estimates between 2,125[21] and 2,310[19] Gazans were killed and between 10,626[19] and 10,895[285] were wounded (including 3,374 children, of whom over 1,000 were left permanently disabled[286])[better source needed]. 66 Israeli soldiers, 5 Israeli civilians (including one child)[287] and one Thai civilian were killed[16] and 469 IDF soldiers and 261 Israeli civilians were injured.[18] The Gaza Health Ministry, UN and some human rights groups reported that 69–75% of the Palestinian casualties were civilians;[16][23][285] Israeli officials estimated that around 50% of those killed were civilians.[279][283] On 5 August, OCHA stated that 520,000 Palestinians in the Gaza Strip (approximately 30% of its population) might have been displaced, of whom 485,000 needed emergency food assistance[240] and 273,000 were taking shelter in 90 UN-run schools.[288]

If you want to check the citations, click through to wikipedia.

So he might have been thinking of the total number of casualties including both killed and injured.

> over 1000 permanently disabled children
Won't somebody think of the children!?

[Frumple]

How about you stop playing thread police. I'm tired of you telling people what they can or can't say.

Slus, I ain't telling anyone what they can or can't say. I'm just asking they say it somewhere else when it seems like folks are going off a bit too hard, particularly when it's a massive and historically volatile derail.