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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #15900 on: April 04, 2016, 01:33:16 am »


I have to say that virtually every time I've tried to negotiate higher wages, I've been laughed at or looked down on. The economy around here is such that harder tactics would not be smart.
People get to negotiate wages? Around here it's always, "Be thankful you have a job at all, replaceable minion #88677894561, and get back to work."
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #15901 on: April 04, 2016, 01:35:08 am »

Basically. They ask you what salary you want (sometimes), but usually that's an exercising in mindreading.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #15902 on: April 04, 2016, 01:39:11 am »

The example I saw was a high-level consulting job of some variety , iirc, where all three consultants (2 male, 1 female) were independent.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #15903 on: April 04, 2016, 01:42:37 am »

Ah. I work retail, where no one gives a shit about anything about you personally, gender included. That is, unless they're running a diversity profile. Worker Number 88677894561, are you a straight Caucasian male christian? No? Congratulations, you're a diversity candidate! Have a momentary pat on the back, while we count the numbers and then go back to not caring.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #15904 on: April 04, 2016, 01:52:45 am »

Ah. I work retail, where no one gives a shit about anything about you personally, gender included. That is, unless they're running a diversity profile. Worker Number 88677894561, are you a straight Caucasian male christian? No? Congratulations, you're a diversity candidate! Have a momentary pat on the back, while we count the numbers and then go back to not caring.

Yeah retail is ass from all accounts. I've never worked it but I HAVE worked fast food and it's about as fun as people describe it. I don't think the wage gap question affects low level jobs like these (I'm assuming from your phrasing that you're not in upper management or something, preemptive apologies if this post offends) at all since, like you said, they give zero fucks about who you are unless they're trying to fill a quota, or occasionally if you have tattoos.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #15905 on: April 04, 2016, 02:00:57 am »

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Why is Caucasian a thing to describe Europeans? Hey, you've got white skin? Must be from the bloody Caucasus, lots of white people there.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #15906 on: April 04, 2016, 02:04:26 am »

Ah. I work retail, where no one gives a shit about anything about you personally, gender included. That is, unless they're running a diversity profile. Worker Number 88677894561, are you a straight Caucasian male christian? No? Congratulations, you're a diversity candidate! Have a momentary pat on the back, while we count the numbers and then go back to not caring.

Yeah retail is ass from all accounts. I've never worked it but I HAVE worked fast food and it's about as fun as people describe it. I don't think the wage gap question affects low level jobs like these (I'm assuming from your phrasing that you're not in upper management or something, preemptive apologies if this post offends) at all since, like you said, they give zero fucks about who you are unless they're trying to fill a quota, or occasionally if you have tattoos.
I am in store management. I'm an Assistant Store Leader for one of the top 100 companies on the Fortune 500. Every single person I've ever come in contact with from my company, from District Leader to Regional Leader to Loss Prevention Leader to whatever, has been treated as a replaceable cog in the multi-billion-dollar profit machine. I'm certainly not offended, because you have it dead on. That leads me to wonder if the wage gap is as real as some people make it out to be, because I bring home less than enough to pay my monthly bills (but too much to qualify for straight up medicaid,) and pretty much everyone under me makes minimum wage.

Note: I am two rum'n'cokes deep at this point, and will probably think what I just typed is incredibly stupid in the morning, so please take that into account.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #15907 on: April 04, 2016, 03:45:52 am »

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Why is Caucasian a thing to describe Europeans? Hey, you've got white skin? Must be from the bloody Caucasus, lots of white people there.

It's americaSpeak for "white", because they have such a racially charged history that "white" and "black" are politically/racially sensitive terms liable to start fights.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #15908 on: April 04, 2016, 03:48:50 am »

Wait, 'white' and 'black' are not accepted terms?
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #15909 on: April 04, 2016, 03:55:29 am »

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Why is Caucasian a thing to describe Europeans? Hey, you've got white skin? Must be from the bloody Caucasus, lots of white people there.

In 18th century guy that coined the term though that humanity was divided in three main races, Caucasoids, Mongoloids and Negroes. Caucasoids (Which include Europeans, North Africans and a bunch of Siberians) were named that way because a) He though that Georgians were the hottest, whitest people on Earth, so they make a good neotype and b) For some reasons, he though the race originated from there.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #15910 on: April 04, 2016, 04:33:36 am »

I just realized how wrong I am. The legal system is 100% impartial. We have protectors of justice such as Joe Arpaio making sure nothing crooked happens.

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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #15911 on: April 04, 2016, 04:50:47 am »

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Why is Caucasian a thing to describe Europeans? Hey, you've got white skin? Must be from the bloody Caucasus, lots of white people there.

In 18th century guy that coined the term though that humanity was divided in three main races, Caucasoids, Mongoloids and Negroes. Caucasoids (Which include Europeans, North Africans and a bunch of Siberians) were named that way because a) He though that Georgians were the hottest, whitest people on Earth, so they make a good neotype and b) For some reasons, he though the race originated from there.

Sorry for nitpicking, but it's negroids. I was under the impression these three classifications were still in use, though.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #15912 on: April 04, 2016, 04:52:23 am »

Not by the scientific community. They've made their way into Western culture a little though.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #15913 on: April 04, 2016, 04:57:51 am »

Damn autocorrect. Yeah, I meant Negroid. I think some of them are still use in some branches of forensic sciences or something. Certainly not as mainstream a thing as it used to.
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Re: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée
« Reply #15914 on: April 04, 2016, 05:08:06 am »

Makes about as much sense as calling a Pakistani Chinese.

I just realized how wrong I am. The legal system is 100% impartial. We have protectors of justice such as Joe Arpaio making sure nothing crooked happens.
Well, the law is impartial, just that there's not a lot of quality control when it comes to choosing who enforces it.
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