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Author Topic: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée  (Read 1587240 times)

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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #13410 on: March 03, 2016, 08:45:40 pm »

I'd say he is more whoring it up on the "anti-establishment" ticket.  As a consequence, after his first term-- (if elected)-- his voterbase will diminish sharply. If elected, I would not expect a second term.

He is more a consequence of a perfect storm of two factors in the republican voter demographic.

1) Dissatisfaction with the party leadership (seen previously with teaparty idiocy-- which the party circumvented through absorption-- to its detriment.) leads to reactionary voting for "non-estabishment" candidates.

2) A large, culturally unpalatable population of conservatives who hate affirmative action, et al-- who are shameless about this, and love that a candidate is speaking their flavor of purile crap, who have some of feature 1 above in that they see more moderate behavior as "capitulation" with "minority agendas" (whatever those are.) These people are the typical racist, homophobic, and generally unpleasant people you typically come to expect to find hidden in the republican party. They have votes, and those votes have power.

Overall satisfaction with party leadership is at all time lows. As a consequence, it is no big surprise that an "anti-establishment" figure like Trump (scare quotes used with prejudicial irony) is getting so much love.

The fact that the GOP has radicalized their voter base to make them into rabid, vapid imbeciles only complicates matters.
There is truth to this. The Tea Party base has shown a penchant for putting people in Washington and then getting fed up with them within two years and replacing them with an even bigger nutter.

"Hell, I voted for that sumbitch, and he STILL ain't made it legal to hunt fa--ots! He's gone soft!"
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Re: Donald J. Trump's Jet Fuel Can't Melt Steel Beams 2016 Megathread
« Reply #13411 on: March 03, 2016, 09:03:29 pm »

It's popcorn time!

Trump says Romney "looked like he went on vacation" the last month of the 2012 campaign.

Interesting crowd -- cheering Trump, cheering Rubio.

Trump says "Rubio hit my hands, nobody has ever hit my hands before, I've never heard that". Obvious bullshit, given that Spy magazine did it years ago, and Trump apparently still hasn't let it go. Also brags that he doesn't have any problems down in the Southern Hemisphere, if you know what I'm saying...
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« Reply #13412 on: March 03, 2016, 09:06:34 pm »

Trump friendly crowd in there I think.

You go Rubio! Tell them to do policy stuff.
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« Reply #13413 on: March 03, 2016, 09:09:17 pm »

Ok, this crowd is just applauding every damn thing.

Trump: Count the votes, bitches. You are getting schooled.
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« Reply #13414 on: March 03, 2016, 09:11:26 pm »

Polite crowd maybe? Things haven't gotten heated yet, getting there though.

Kasich is left out already.
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« Reply #13415 on: March 03, 2016, 09:12:00 pm »

Off the rails already! This is delicious.

Oh snap...they just asked Kasich basically, "Are you ok sacrificing your campaign to stop Trump?"
He's not taking the bait.


Ok, are they just paying people by the cheer? Cause I've never heard Kasich get that much applause.
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« Reply #13416 on: March 03, 2016, 09:13:49 pm »

Off the rails already! This is delicious.

There weren't really any rails to begin with.
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« Reply #13417 on: March 03, 2016, 09:17:37 pm »

Not sure what type of debate Fox is angling for here... :/

Also some booing at Trump, I think, or it was the question, theres a slight (normal) delay in the captions.
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« Reply #13418 on: March 03, 2016, 09:19:47 pm »

Trump is asked when he'll move Trump suits back to the US, sidesteps the answer totally and talks about currency devaluation.
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« Reply #13419 on: March 03, 2016, 09:19:54 pm »

Seriously, The republican party has been the analogue of the Python "Silly Party" for years now.

Just waiting for Jethro Q WalrusTitty to run. That skit is more and more prescient every day.
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« Reply #13420 on: March 03, 2016, 09:21:30 pm »

"Little Marco" and "Big Don"....sounds like a couple of Mafia goons.


WTF....Trump says he would cut Department of Education, EPA, and most of the IRS.

Daaaaaamn, since when did FOX learn to use statistics and facts??

Holy shit, it's an ambush! I mean, they had these graphics and everything ready to roll! This is a bona fide political assassination attempt on live TV.
And it is glorious.
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« Reply #13421 on: March 03, 2016, 09:25:12 pm »

To most conservative ideologues, the DEA is a massive clusterfuck into which more and more money is vested, with smaller and smaller returns. Cutting it and restructuring is seen as the appropriate solution.

The EPA naturally stands in the way of raping and pillaging the commons, (which is SO VERY PROFITABLE in the short term!) and as such is seen as anti-employment.

And of course, the IRS is involved in income tax. The republican party seem to have this notion that they are just temporarily embarrassed millionaires, and that they need to keep uncle sam out of the money they dont have.

As such, Trump's statement there is very on-target with this constituency.
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« Reply #13422 on: March 03, 2016, 09:25:28 pm »

AAAAAND, Cruz goes straight to some rehearsed stump thing instead of answering the question. (which was, if you remove the IRS, who or what will people send their taxes to?)

What's Trump responding to exactly?
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« Reply #13423 on: March 03, 2016, 09:30:29 pm »

Kasich is pretty strong tonight.

Aaand meanwhile people are photobombing the moderators. Classy. "LOOK MAW, I"SE ON THE TEEVEE!"


EDIT: Awkward little interaction there between Megyn Kelly and Trump.
And Trump sounds halfway sane on compromise....and then invokes the Wall and erases any trace of that.


Rubio catching some boo-birds now.



Trump was against H1-Bs, now is in favor of them.
Crus was for H-1Bs, is now against.

This NYT tapes thing might gain some legs...
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« Reply #13424 on: March 03, 2016, 09:45:18 pm »

Heh on this for Cruz (off of CNN's liveblog): Cruz just invoked his dad and Rubio's dad as examples of Americans who wanted jobs. But weren't they both immigrants?
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