Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[mainiac]

Sweet!  That's one.

[TheBiggerFish]

I don't think I've ever intentionally insulted you, but if I did by accident, sorry maniac.

Pretty much, except I don't think we've really spoken.

[smjjames]

Trump thinks so highly of his imagined ability to make other countries do what he wants: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/trump-kim-jong-un-219068

No idea if we've ever attempted to assassinate or otherwise forcibly remove a NK leader (besides the Korean War). Not that we haven't done or attempted to for some places in Latin America.

[Helgoland]

mainiac: I guess what you're seeing is that the left has become its own sort of 'establishment' that punishes those deviating too far from its standards - i.e. the centrist left-wingers - just like the establishment proper punishes those who deviate too far from its standards.

[mainiac]

Pretty much, except I don't think we've really spoken.

Nor do I.  You just sorta appeared a few weeks back?  Um, you seem alright I guess?

[misko27]

SO THE RUNDOWN ON THE GOP.

Rubio's DOMO ARIGATO moment may have ruined him in the endorsement game, a sub-game with absolutely crucial importance to any candidate wishing for establishment support. He managed to move a lot of support behind him in the aftermath of Iowa, but with the Debate mistake and his poor showing in New Hampshire, he's in a bad place. To win, he'll need to avoid any mistakes and keep pushing his line, but any good victories would give him a lot more breathing room.

Trump has won New Hampshire! The state pundits called "more cynical" and "more moderate" voted for a candidate even Iowa couldn't bring itself to support. Will this be the end of New Hampshire's First-in-the-nation primary? Only time will tell, but the fallout has only just started.

And the surprise number two is Jo-jo-jo-jo-oooohn... Kasich? That's right. The moderate man for Ohio is now in position to last a lot longer in this field. He won't win South Carolina, but he is setting up in the Midwest, and he will definitely win Ohio, so even if he still has no chance he has the ability to make people remember that he exists.

Meanwhile Jeb Bush is still in it (if not to win it), while Christie probably is not. Bush will likely push into his rivals, attacking Kasich as insufficiently conservative and Rubio, who seemed prepared to eclipse Bush as the main establishment, as insufficiently experienced. Is he right? Maybe, but its an open question whether or not he can turn the tide, or push back Trump even if he does. Still, he looks better today then before, if only because of the weakening of Rubio.

All this points to a lot of power in the populist side of the race, which is now basically a one-on-one between Trump and Cruz. I can say with certainty that when these two are in the room, almost every republican politician hates at least ONE of them (Hate Cruz for being an ass in Congress, hate Trump for, Trump). I don't know what to expect in this race, but I can say it will be interesting. Overall, the fact that there are still two left on this side is a positive sign for Establishment republicans, because with the establishment candidates divided, Trump could potentially lock down support if not for Cruz at his heels.

NINJA-EDIT: to think, people made fun for months because this was supposed to be a "Dynastic election", between the Bushes and the Clintons; a sign of the complete COLLAPSE of representative democracy in the United States. I don't think I've heard anyone admitting they were wrong

[mainiac]

And the surprise number two is Jo-jo-jo-jo-oooohn... Kasich? That's right. The moderate man for Ohio is now in position to last a lot longer in this field. He won't win South Carolina, but he is setting up in the Midwest, and he will definitely win Ohio, so even if he still has no chance he has the ability to make people remember that he exists.

Maybe he is banking on a brokered convention.  If Kasich can in three or four states he would be a plausible nominee in such a situation.  His governorship of Ohio gives him a great electability argument when compared to Trump, Cruz and Bush.  Rubio is the one who can best contest the role as the electable candidate but it's possible that Rubio goes nowhere.  It's a pretty longshot strategy but a brokered convention has never been more likely.

[RedKing]

Buzz is that Chris Christie is going to fold.

He's cancelled an event in SC, and apparently he wasn't going to qualify for the next debate.

[Dorsidwarf]

Dropping in to say that Maniac gets a lot of personal shit thrown at him and hardly ever reciprocates with personal attacks (Even if I don't personally like him).

Also holy shit the Trump was not Stumped by losing Iowa

[SalmonGod]

If you took all the times that people insulted me for expressing an opinion, it would be longer then most of the threads in this forum.  No one has once apologized to me for this.

I'm sorry if any of my interactions with you have come across as insulting.  I try my best to keep personal attacks out of everything, but I'm sure I've said stuff that could be interpreted that way in the past*.  We've been at odds a lot.

I also don't think your stance on Hillary makes you corrupt or anything like that.  I don't even think you've expressed yourself as a hardline supporter of hers.  I just think you get labeled as such, because you always jump in to disagree with people's specific stances against her.  And I like the information and perspective you bring when you do this, even if we clearly build different bigger pictures in our minds from those details.  Overall, I do find you genuine and well-meaning.

NINJA-EDIT: to think, people made fun for months because this was supposed to be a "Dynastic election", between the Bushes and the Clintons; a sign of the complete COLLAPSE of representative democracy in the United States. I don't think I've heard anyone admitting they were wrong

I wouldn't expect that until the general election candidates are actually confirmed.

Dropping in to say that Maniac gets a lot of personal shit thrown at him and hardly ever reciprocates with personal attacks (Even if I don't personally like him).

He doesn't.  But he does conduct himself in a manner that's generally abrasive, in ways that I've tried to explain to him in the past.  And I think he's self-aware about it now to point where he kind of runs with the character in a semi-ironic fashion...

*Edit - typo

[mainiac]

If you are going to be an asshole you might as well try and be the best asshole you can be.  This forum is my origin story.  40 years from now I will be out there completing Trump's work.

[nenjin]

Don't worry maniac, I still lurv you.

[WealthyRadish]

Buzz is that Chris Christie is going to fold.

He's cancelled an event in SC, and apparently he wasn't going to qualify for the next debate.

Christie is the only politician I've experienced an intense personal loathing towards in recent memory, so it actually makes me very happy to see him drop out (even though I didn't think he could get the nomination). Is it weird that he bothers me a lot more than Trump?

[Flying Dice]

I know we've had our share of disagreements, mainiac, but I never intended to attack you in place of your positions and I apologize if it came off that way--I'm assuming the same is true in reverse.

[Loud Whispers]

Ban this sick lovefest