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Author Topic: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée  (Read 1570027 times)

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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #10740 on: February 01, 2016, 02:09:49 am »

Mordor isn't Nazi Germany? One does not simply walk into Nazi Germany, unless one's time machine is a treadmill.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #10741 on: February 01, 2016, 02:37:50 am »

Is Hitler Morgoth? Or would that be someone else, given the context already established? Stalin, maybe, if Putin is Sauron?
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #10742 on: February 01, 2016, 02:47:39 am »

Did Morgoth even have any enemies who were evil? I mean... it seems like there's a shortage of villains (well, Big Bosses anyways).
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #10743 on: February 01, 2016, 02:49:08 am »

Did Morgoth even have any enemies who were evil? I mean... it seems like there's a shortage of villains (well, Big Bosses anyways).

Ungoliant technically.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #10744 on: February 01, 2016, 05:58:37 am »

Mordor is the liberator

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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #10745 on: February 01, 2016, 06:50:57 am »

Can we please put this to rest? I'm pretty sure there are Geneva Conventions against torturing a metaphor this badly.

Besides, as of today the rubber meets the road and we have actual votes to discuss. Sorta (caucuses being not exactly votes).
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #10746 on: February 01, 2016, 02:23:57 pm »

(in response to polls putting Trump ahead)
Name recognition and flavor of the month status can matter a lot more then anything else this far out from an election with such unknown candidates.  I wouldn't put too much weight on those numbers.  Remember what the republican field went through two years ago?

Oh man, and here we are on the other side of the name recognition struggles and we still have the field getting Trumped.  Iowa and New Hampshire caucus goers are well aware at this point where Cruz and Rubio and Bush and Kaisich have staked out their claims.  I guess it just goes to show there is a first time for everything.  Still doesn't mean that Trump is certain to win today or win the nomination but it probably means this time was different.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #10747 on: February 01, 2016, 02:30:51 pm »

So...what's the timeline for exit polls and results and so on and so forth?
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #10748 on: February 01, 2016, 02:34:56 pm »

I stand by most of my earlier comments. I said, (and I still believe) that Donald "I think I am a nice person" Trump will not win, but I was cautious to avoid putting a time limit. Just look at this:

The thing about Donald "I think I am a nice person" Trump is that he will not win (he is just too damn unlikable, and unelectable; the same people who nominated Mitt Romney and John McCain will never support Donald "I think I am a nice person" Trump), but until he doesn't win, he has *far* too much power and influence over the nominating contest. Faaar too much. Think about this: Because Donald "I think I am a nice person" Trump is doing so well, the odds are that he will be within the top ten nationally when the first debate rolls around (and amazingly, probably close to the center of the stage, next to Bush, Rubio, and Walker), which also means he will push out one of the more serious but low-polling candidates (on Red King's NC poll, that would be Perry, Santorum, Graham and Jindal). Just think about that: Rick Perry was more then a bit of a buffoon in 2012, but he was still a governor of a major state (and a major republican state) for a long time, Santorum was the main contender to Romney in 2012, Graham is a major foreign policy expert and Senator (and is practically the long-lost brother of 2008's candidate, John McCain), and Jindal is a popular southern governor and one of the few minorities in the race; Governor Kasich of Ohio (remember Ohio? The state no republican can lose if they want to win the General Election?) wasn't even on that poll, but he would get booted too. All of those people would be booted off in favor of Donald "I think I am a nice person" Trump. And there's no criteria they've found yet that will exclude Donald "I think I am a nice person" Trump but include important people like Jeb.

Basically, it's a brewing shitstorm of epic proportions. If Donald "I think I am a nice person" Trump doesn't deflate soon, it's, well, it's going to be very amusing from a certain POV.
First, I still think it's a shitstorm of epic proportions, that was an accurate prediction. Second, note I said "If Donald "I think I am a nice person" Trump doesn't deflate soon", which shows that I am considering it a possibility. Finally, I still think the general thrust of my statement is true, although not in the broader sense. To show what I mean, look at the other one:

All  Trumpet can do is toot his own horn. That works great in marketing and politics, but elections are won on more sturdy stuff than that. He can't hope to sustain this momentum, and the moment that hot-air balloon begins to deflate, it'll pop.
The general thrust remains true, but I was wrong in one sense, so I'll amend: Donald "I think I am a nice person" Trump cannot afford to lose momentum. Momentum is all he has. He built momentum early on, and he kept it going. But if it stops, the music stops. If Donald "I think I am a nice person" Trump loses Iowa, I would put hard money on Donald "I think I am a nice person" Trump losing everything. Even if he does win, he might lose.

The two things I could have predicted, but didn't was that the Republican field would never clear up properly, and that the fact that it didn't clear up would allow Donald "I think I am a nice person" Trump to keep going. Iowa will clean the field tremendously. Donald "I think I am a nice person" Trump may well win, but his real test starts now. We'll see if either the voters, or the RNC have any way, or any interest, in stopping him.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #10749 on: February 01, 2016, 02:38:58 pm »

Well faking it until you make it does exist.  Ecclesiastes 9:11 and whatnot.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #10750 on: February 01, 2016, 02:49:03 pm »

Well faking it until you make it does exist.  Ecclesiastes 9:11 and whatnot.
Proverbs can't melt caucus beams?
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #10751 on: February 01, 2016, 03:00:11 pm »

I like to imagine Trump getting trounced and entering a depression spiral that ends with him drunkenly confessing some kind of massive insider trading scheme on live television and all of his money being confiscated and he dies in a gutter after selling his hair for some low-grade krocodil.

Ah, that would be nice.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #10752 on: February 01, 2016, 03:12:41 pm »

I dont think Trump is artful enough to pull of an insider trading scheme.  Although short selling a company you ran into 9 billion dollars of debt would in theory be a pretty good opportunity, you have to recognize what is happening ahead of time.  I'm not even sure Trump realized what he had done afterwards.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #10753 on: February 01, 2016, 03:23:04 pm »

Proverbs can't melt caucus beams?

If a candidate, any candidate, is nominated the party structure will still exist and give them some support.  Hence why this guy still got 28% of the vote.  Trump might damage those structures but a lot of it will still be intact to give him a boost after his hypothetical nomination.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #10754 on: February 01, 2016, 03:42:37 pm »

Well faking it until you make it does exist.  Ecclesiastes 9:11 and whatnot.
Proverbs can't melt caucus beams?

I read that as cactus initially, lol.
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