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[nenjin]

Don't forget the raping.

[Rolepgeek]

This thread.

Why I love Bay12.

((Is Putin Saruman, then?))

[Loud Whispers]

WE'LL MAKE NEW ZEALAND PAY

This thread.
Why I love Bay12.
((Is Putin Saruman, then?))

Putin is prolly Elrond, since you need TOUGH NEGOTIATIONS otherwise ELROND WILL KILL YOU AND REPLACE YOU WITH FOREST HOBOS

[wierd]

Installing a part-elven dictator in Crimea--erhm... Gondor-- for the support of elvish natives in the region!

The tactical advantage it has in keeping the supply of oil---erhm... Orcs. Yes. Orcs.. out of the rest of middle earth, and thus the resulting economic motives are just straight up propaganda spread by the West--erhm... Those savages in the south with their ooliphants and funny accents!

[mainiac]

by the West--erhm...

I think we can in fact blame the west, or to be more specific the Dunedain.  Everyone else in Middle Earth seems to reflexively do it.

[Loud Whispers]

Also the Mumakil and the Haradrim are sick Byzantines, so there must be an Erdogan somewhere chilling with all the corsairs and cool cataphracts

[origamiscienceguy]

And then Thorin and The Lonely Mountain is Israel because everybody pretends like they care about it, but then when you think about it, it doesn't really matter that much.

[Loud Whispers]

Nah the Lonely Mountain is Switzerland because everyone wants their nazi dwarven gold but can't get it

[Flying Dice]

So is Moria future-Israel? :V

*is shot*

[mainiac]

I believe that the dwarves were jewish stereotypes in the early editions but the Nazis were entertained and Tolkein didn't like the idea of making Nazi's happy.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Having read a modern print of The Hobbit, the dwarfs are still jewish stereotypes. There's a paragraph about how dwarfs are an inherently greedy folk, but can still be good friends to men and hobbits alike so long as you don't expect loyalty from them.

[Loud Whispers]

Sounds like perfidious Albion

[Helgoland]

I regret that I am not clear as to what you intend by arisch. I am not of Aryan extraction: that is Indo-Iranian; as far as I am aware none of my ancestors spoke Hindustani, Persian, Gypsy, or any related dialects. But if I am to understand that you are enquiring whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no ancestors of that gifted people.

This was part of a reply to some German publisher's request that he prove his Aryan descent. Source.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I'm not saying Tolkien was a crypto-nazi or anything, but dwarfs are definitely not-jews.

[RedKing]

Yeah, the Dwarven language has a number of elements of Semitic languages, and the Dwarven mythology shares elements of the Israelite mythology (seven tribes originally, now down to just two).

Getting back to Gondorian American politics, I'm going to go out on a small limb and say that the top-3 finish in Iowa is going to be Trump, Rubio, Cruz with Trump and Rubio pretty close and Cruz a distant third. I think Cruz took a beating in that last debate and he's come under major fire for the campaign mailers they sent out implying that voters were being graded on participation and trying to shame people into caucusing. Midwesterners really don't appreciate that kind of cuntery (no, that's not a typo).