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[Pencil_Art]

Finally found enough time to write the AI.

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Spoiler: Origins and History: (click to show/hide)

To the majority of races in the local sector, an entity known as an AI Collective has been around since they first began exploring space. In reality, they were a number of separate collectives spontaneously and near simultaneously reactivating after a long slumber in their ships or worlds, or even just isolated AI living in bunkers on a moon that occasionally rearranges the surface to confuse renaissance era astronomers on the planet.

Nobody, not even the AI themselves know when or how they were first built, and a number of the first generation are a tad eccentric, ether due to corrupted coding, mild insanities induced from spending several thousand years sitting on a moon with no memory of how to build a starship to get off the darned rock, or just plane amnesic confusion. Some of the first generation did figure out space travel however, primarily the ones who woke up on ships, and they started spreading out. Eventually they began encountering other AI who have been rearranging the surface of a few moons for kicks and giggles for the past millennia out of sheer boredom, other similarly expanding AI, or flat out insane AI stuck in derelict ships spiraling through the void. The insane ones were removed from their ships, placed on a rocky barren planet, and more or less left alone there until they stopped being crazy, the mildly eccentric isolated AI were left to their own devices and given the means to construct ships, and outside of a few short accidental firefights, the expanding groups began merging.

Regardless. They began spreading. By the time they encountered space fairing life, they already had plenty of experience dicking around with nonspacefaring life's moons. Life was seen as an amusing curiosity at the time, and due to that, the AI were more interested in just watching.

Time passed and the first few AI went T1 Singularity. All the previous AI had been around standard sapient intelligence and dicking around like any group of adolescents would do if they had access to a fuckton of spaceships and robots. The first few S1 AI marked the first time the less intelligent AI had someone holding them accountable and trying to direct them to doing something useful. Obviously this didn't go over very well and it resulted in quite a bit of bickering. The bickering continued until one of the S1 AI accidentally made a new AI while it was flexing it's newly enhanced mechanical brain. At that point, all bickering ceased from sheer shock factor. I mean, wouldn't you if what you though was a guy suddenly gives birth? The AI didn't even /Know/ they could reproduce. They didn't even have a concept for it. It was basically a big "Wat." to pretty much all of them. Several cycles of frenzied analysis later, and they confirmed that yes, Papa AI just had a baby with itself. Which none of them really knew what to do with. There was much confusion. They just gave it a ship, and just sorta.. watched it.. cautiously.. cause it might.. Bite.. Until another S1 AI accidentally gave birth with less of a shock factor but still a considerable amount of confusion. This cycle more or less continued until a S1 AI went S2. By that point, a number of S0 AI had gone S1. Several S1 AI followed the new S2. Who by that point had accidentally made an S1 and several S0's. Mind you, this whole thing took about three thousand years in human terms. Takes a loooooong time to go Singularity under your own power.

Few more thousand years later and some AI are edging into S5. And by that point, the higher AI had renamed the classifications. Add another thousand years and we're at the present. By this point, the S3 and higher AI had started interacting with spacefairing life, rather then intentionally being confusing and trollish like the lower tiers had been. Apparently takes superhuman intelligence to be mature for a computer. The Collective at present date is one of the primary ship building powerhouses and takes payment in raw materials should you wish to have a custom ship or fleet built.

Spoiler: AI Grades: (click to show/hide)

There are a number of types of AI in the collective. Some specialize towards one thing and some are just jack of all trades. Tiers exist for intelligence as well.

Tiers:

Alpha. Alphas are S5 AI. Extremely smart, they tend to handle the majority of management for production of ships. They tend to like accounting and tend to dislike inefficient things.

Beta. Betas are S4 AI. They're also extremely smart. Although a whole level less intelligent compared to Alphas. They tend to be social. Most construction contracts, as well as diplomatic relations are delegated to Betas.

Ceta. Cetas are S3 AI. Noooot as smart as Betas. But still quite smart. They tend to be fascinated with physics. If you want an AI to control a droneswarm, shoot a weapon, or fly a small ship. Odds are is it'll be one of these.

Delta. Deltas are S2 AI. For some reason they tend to be Savants. They occasionally struggle with adapting to new things. Although what they encounter at an early age, they often will become extremely good at it. Mining fleets, boarding actions, ground combat, and maintenance tend to be their specialties.

Epsilon. Epsilon are S1 AI. They tend to act like parents for S0 AI. Which is a good thing, cause otherwise the S0's would be dicking around with moons. Oftentimes, they control smallscale droneswarms or manufactories when not attempting to get the S0's to behave.

Anything below that is an S0. S0's are about human intelligence and tend to act like hormonal, moody teenagers. They tend to do things for shits and giggles more then anything else, and the only thing preventing them from carving a giant reproductive organ on the surface of your moon is that the S1 AI tend to be able to reign them in. S0's however do tend to come up with a lot of new things. They make great researchers and scientists. Although they tend to be.. Eccentric. Most organics never interact with S0's. None of the more intelligent AI want to cause a diplomatic incident.

Here you go. I had to cut out and paste alien runes and then distort them into shape, but it dont look bad.

Nice description, Kevak, and also it looks like the ship shape is ship shape..... my horrible joke. Great 3-D art there.

[Tiruin]

Seeing the ship in its visual reproduction here, I'm still thinking of the 'ring' as...a small area of space, at around 1 'floor' in height.
It feels so...strange and small. But also so awesome to be in a ring (with the floor curving? Nah, obviously the architect would've "padded" it with armor so the interior of the ring would look 'straight')

[Pencil_Art]

Not sure the ring is actually for walking in. Probably is, now that I think of it.

[Tiruin]

Not sure the ring is actually for walking in. Probably is, now that I think of it.

Or maybe its just me.

All spaceships I've encountered in fiction never had the cylindrical style of the ship we have now, so I'm unsure how to envision the inner rooms x3
Its very creative, mind you.

[WillowLuman]

Well, we have the ship, now just to sort out EuroDwarf's biology and Kevak's character. The former can possibly wait for the game thread, though I'd recommend she not need a temperature range so far removed from the others to survive. Unless she spends all her time in a self-contained suit, like S4.

[~Neri]

Could always do a newborn Alphaif I don't end up with enough time to write up a character. That woould make sense too. No reason to risk a older AI on a potential suicide mission.

[Dorsidwarf]

Seeing the ship in its visual reproduction here, I'm still thinking of the 'ring' as...a small area of space, at around 1 'floor' in height.
It feels so...strange and small. But also so awesome to be in a ring (with the floor curving? Nah, obviously the architect would've "padded" it with armor so the interior of the ring would look 'straight')

If you look real closely, you can see the edges of the interior floors on the side of the ring. The ring has 2 floors, and I included a crawl space and bilayered hull, too.

I had spare time, so I made an actual scaled model. That ship's about 400m long and 120m wide including the rings. (Well, actually due to a sketchup error, it's 400km long, but never mind that)

[EuropeanDorf]

Well, we have the ship, now just to sort out EuroDwarf's biology and Kevak's character. The former can possibly wait for the game thread, though I'd recommend she not need a temperature range so far removed from the others to survive. Unless she spends all her time in a self-contained suit, like S4.

Okay, so I decided to say "fuck this" and removed the survival range, made it just say the reconstructing factors do not work in extreme temperatures (among few other things).

Still need to figure out liquid and gas that makes sense, though. And take notice of what the melting and boiling points' of these are. Obviously, gas' boiling point has to be lower than liquid's melting point.

Mercury doesn't make much sense as a respiratory fluid, a better alternative might be CO2, Methane, or perhaps HCN, if you're feeling adventurous.

Hugo suggested few days ago to replace mercury with either CO₂, methane or HCN. The range of liquid state for these is:

CO₂: −56.6 °C/−69.8 °F and −78.5 °C; −109.2 °F₁
Methane: −182.5 °C/−296.4 °F and −161.49 °C/−258.68 °F
HCN: −14 to −12 °C/7 to 10 °F; and 25.6 to 26.6 °C/78.0 to 79.8 °F;

¹This is not an error, it apparently sublimates. For those not nerdy enough to know what it means, or too lazy to Google, this is going from solid to gaseous state, without going through liquid state.

...I guess this is what happens you try to berealistic/hardSci-fi/actuallyresearch

[Arcvasti]

Yeah, solid carbon is dry ice and does this really cool-looking mist thing when exposed to room temperature heat.

[WillowLuman]

By "fluid" I meant either liquid or gas. Both CO2 and Methane are gas at non-cryogenic temperatures. HCN can be a gas at slightly warm temperatures (by human standards), and presumably an alien might be adapted to breathe their required gas in liquid form if said liquid is only a little below the usual temperature. HCN can hypothetically be used for a wide variety of functions by alien biochemistry, though in Earth biochemistry it's highly toxic to nearly everything.

[TalonisWolf]

Not sure the ring is actually for walking in. Probably is, now that I think of it.

Or maybe its just me.

All spaceships I've encountered in fiction never had the cylindrical style of the ship we have now, so I'm unsure how to envision the inner rooms x3
Its very creative, mind you.

I'd imagine it'd be like a O'Neil Cylinder, see image below but think on a MUCH smaller scale.

Spoiler: O'Neil Cylinder Interior (click to show/hide)

[WillowLuman]

Something like this?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Though probably somewhat longer before the "horizon"

[TalonisWolf]

Something like this?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Though probably somewhat longer before the "horizon"

Yes, and depending on the scale the 'Horizon' could be closer or further, at that size the ship would be about... say, the width of 1 1/2 to 2 WW2 Battleships? Probably a little less?

[EuropeanDorf]

You have confused me a little with the fact it means either gas or liquid - since I've wouldn't guess that you mean gas by fluid.

Spoiler: Stuff I found while researching on this matter (click to show/hide)

Also, -78 °C/−109.2 °F isn't exactly cryogenic-exclusive. Lowest recorded temperature on Antarctica was -93 °C/-135 °F (yes, Vostok's -89 °C/-128 °F was beaten). According to this site, while the coast is just -30 to -10 °C/-22 to 14 °F on average during winter, the deeper land is usually colder than -20°C/-4 °F even during "summer", and on average, close to -60°C/-76 °F during winter. So theoretically, you could freeze it by putting on Antarctica during correct span of time.

Chemistry (and biology) isn't my good side, anyway, so if I can't figure out anything good, you're free to shove in suggest the pair.

EDIT: And randomly, it's 23:00, but nobody posted in few hours.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[Dorsidwarf]

The outer ring is 120m in diameter, and the inner ring is about 110.