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[utunnels]

I think a dabbling worker, especially those with zero experience, should produce some useless junks before he reaches novice level.

XXgranite mechanismXX
XXadamantine breast plateXX

Or, he just sometimes fails to finish the job and destroys all or some of the materials.
Urist DabblingWeaponSmith has failed to finished the gold statue: job items destroyed.

[Witty]

I think both systems could work together quite well actually.

Either way, +1 for sure. This is a mechanic that has really been a long time coming, and would add a lot of needed force behind skill proficiencies. 

[Manzeenan]

Makes some sense in some area's but making metal stuff should not be included as metal can easily be recast, if anything maybe a scrap system to recycle junk, metal isnt just lost. Also I believe a tinkers/work bench should be in order to repair worn out stuff, deconstruct foreign weapons/armor (if foreign armor comes {or is it already here?}) and enable your site to create that type of weapon. Either way this could be greatly expanded. A recycling system would be great in my opinion and would make this process more welcome IMO ranther than Urist MNnoob destroying valuable metal in order to learn crap.

[C27]

Makes some sense in some area's but making metal stuff should not be included as metal can easily be recast, if anything maybe a scrap system to recycle junk, metal isnt just lost.

Melt-designated by default, maybe? Actually, automatically melt-designating any xmetalx items would be nice.

[LordBaal]

In the case of metal, simply making XXmetal objectsXX would suffice, those can already be considered scrap to be melted. (damn ninjaed, that happens for starting to write and then leave the computer for half an hour)

Something that could work with this is the apprenticeship, when a dabbling worker is guided by a master has less chances of this and gains experience at a faster rate.

Also I would love to have the manager giving orders regarding the quality of objects. Like melt all XXmetal objectsXX, or below *metal object*  quality.

On the other hand if you order the production of 20 ≡steel helms≡, only the best armor smiths available work on it, or maybe the work is put on hold until at least one master armor smith is available.

[Zarathustra30]

Toady mentioned negative qualities in the latest dfTalk, in conjunction with apprentice children and such.

I still like this idea, and I hope it slips in with recipes.

[Urist Tilaturist]

This looks like an excellent mechanic, and also one which is heading for addition to the game.

[Deboche]

I like it too. It'd force you to give your 7 starting dwarves skills instead of having them learn as they go.

[Urist Tilaturist]

Skills like mason and carpenter, yes. Small animal dissector, not so much.

[Gargomaxthalus]

Skills like mason and carpenter, yes. Small animal dissector, not so much.

Oh really? Yet it would be so much !!FUN!! to have unskilled Dwarves who try that job potentially end up as serial killers....................

[Urist Tilaturist]

Only if dwarves count as small animals. Don't say that to their faces.

[BoredVirulence]

Only if dwarves count as small animals. Don't say that to their faces.

I think he was talking about serial killers and psychopaths tendencies to kill small animals. Its considered a warning sign.
In which case I wouldn't want to bring dwarves with small animal dissector experience. Was it professional, or amateur?...

[Urist Tilaturist]

If they did it for fun, it might be psychopathic, but working in a slaughterhouse seems far more likely.

[TheBeardyMan]

Also, if the job the unskilled/dabbling worker is attempting is decoration, there should be a chance of damaging the base item or an existing decoration and reducing its quality, which should also be artwork destruction if said base item or decoration is a masterpiece.

[LordBaal]

Which promptly would make the master dwarf that made the base item bash the apprentice.