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Author Topic: How do I prevent dorfs from biting the enemy?  (Read 1668 times)

utunnels

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How do I prevent dorfs from biting the enemy?
« on: January 05, 2015, 03:06:58 am »
Well that really looks stupid.

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The Mace Lord bites The Bronze Colossus in the right upper arm, but the attack glances away!
The Spearmaster bites The Bronze Colossus in the thumb, right hand, but the attack glances away!
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Re: How do I prevent dorfs from biting the enemy?
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2015, 03:40:34 am »
By removing their teeth.

But you shouldn't do that. Biting is perhaps the best auxiliary attack type - it allows follow-up shakes which often cause heavy bleeding or outright dismemberment and establishes a hold, which prevents enemies from dodging and often causes them to spend a turn or two breaking the hold instead of attacking.

Dwarfs don't have an attack choice algorithm to prevent them from using attacks that are inherently useless in the given situation. Dwarfs will also swarm unconscious large critters to inefficiently punch them in the head. You could prevent that by chopping off all dwarfs' hands, but i'm not sure that'd really be a worthwile endeavour.
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Re: How do I prevent dorfs from biting the enemy?
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2015, 12:21:48 pm »
Don't think of biting as useless. I had a guy lose both arms, only to wake up and bite out the throat of a few goblins a month later.
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Re: How do I prevent dorfs from biting the enemy?
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2015, 01:06:20 pm »
I just got a very vivid picture of a swarm of dwarves all gnawing on a huge colossus made of bronze.
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Re: How do I prevent dorfs from biting the enemy?
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2015, 02:24:34 pm »
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I just got a very vivid picture of a swarm of dwarves all gnawing on a huge colossus made of bronze.

That image is golden.
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Re: How do I prevent dorfs from biting the enemy?
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2015, 02:37:09 pm »
Biting anything hard or armoured should break a dwarf's teeth. It should only really be a last resort attack for wrestling fights, and only done on exposed flesh like the throat and not the top of a goblin's skull.
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Re: How do I prevent dorfs from biting the enemy?
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2015, 03:35:06 pm »
This actually raises a question.. If a dwarf bites something with poisonous blood what would happen?
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Re: How do I prevent dorfs from biting the enemy?
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2015, 05:04:05 pm »
Quote from: nuget102 on January 05, 2015, 03:35:06 pm
This actually raises a question.. If a dwarf bites something with poisonous blood what would happen?
Nothing if they never drink the blood. And they'd never have a reason to as long as there's booze around!
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Re: How do I prevent dorfs from biting the enemy?
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2015, 06:02:10 pm »
If they bite deep enough to cause bleeding, they should suffer the effects of the poisoned blood.
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Re: How do I prevent dorfs from biting the enemy?
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2015, 07:44:48 pm »
Kind of depends how harsh the poison is, some minor poisons they could probably spit out with lessened or no ill effects... That said, biting something with corrosive acid for blood should definitely cause more than a little bad breathe...
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Re: How do I prevent dorfs from biting the enemy?
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2015, 11:59:04 am »
I thought that poison blood was toxic on skin contact, but that may just be from some forgotten beasts.
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Re: How do I prevent dorfs from biting the enemy?
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2015, 12:19:30 pm »
Well the effects of forgotten beast syndromes are random, it may cause necrosis from skin contact or it may just give them a minor headache that clears up in an hour... yeah, FBs in general are pretty random and their syndromes are too...
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Re: How do I prevent dorfs from biting the enemy?
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2015, 08:02:24 pm »
Quote from: LuckyKobold on January 05, 2015, 02:24:34 pm
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I just got a very vivid picture of a swarm of dwarves all gnawing on a huge colossus made of bronze.

That image is golden.

No it's only bronze.
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Re: How do I prevent dorfs from biting the enemy?
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2015, 09:00:08 pm »
As dwarf has no problem consuming anything from raw waterbuffalo meat to wild strauberry, its teeth should be similar to that of rhesus macaque, racoon, badger, or other small omnivores, which is a reasonable weapon.
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Re: How do I prevent dorfs from biting the enemy?
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2015, 12:05:57 pm »
Yes, they are strong weapons, but biting a goblin in the head muscle (why do heads have that much muscle and fat?) and shaking it about is still daft.
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