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Re: No Man's Sky - 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 planets to explore
« Reply #555 on: August 10, 2016, 02:24:06 pm »

The thing about preorders is that you can take them back if reviews look bad! We don't do anything with the money but apply it to your game when it comes out. Hard to be a scam when you can get your money back no questions asked. So, do your damn homework just like we've been doing here, and if you want a game, plunk $5 down on it and we'll hold one for you. If you don't want it, get your $5 back, and we'll sell it to someone else. Plain and simple.
If online preorders were a $5 reservation thing, I'd guess people would be less bothered by it. But they aren't.
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Re: No Man's Sky - 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 planets to explore
« Reply #556 on: August 10, 2016, 02:31:18 pm »

The thing about preorders is that you can take them back if reviews look bad! We don't do anything with the money but apply it to your game when it comes out. Hard to be a scam when you can get your money back no questions asked. So, do your damn homework just like we've been doing here, and if you want a game, plunk $5 down on it and we'll hold one for you. If you don't want it, get your $5 back, and we'll sell it to someone else. Plain and simple.
If online preorders were a $5 reservation thing, I'd guess people would be less bothered by it. But they aren't.
You can actually put an online reserve through to your home store through the website with no money down. Totally free, we'll still hold a copy.
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Re: No Man's Sky - 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 planets to explore
« Reply #557 on: August 10, 2016, 02:36:43 pm »

Yeah, can't blame the man for this. He outright states, multiple times, that this is not a multiplayer game..

There are as much quotes of him telling the press it isn't competitive multiplayer but players will be able to meet each others
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Re: No Man's Sky - 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 planets to explore
« Reply #558 on: August 10, 2016, 02:44:35 pm »

The thing about preorders is that you can take them back if reviews look bad! We don't do anything with the money but apply it to your game when it comes out. Hard to be a scam when you can get your money back no questions asked. So, do your damn homework just like we've been doing here, and if you want a game, plunk $5 down on it and we'll hold one for you. If you don't want it, get your $5 back, and we'll sell it to someone else. Plain and simple.
If online preorders were a $5 reservation thing, I'd guess people would be less bothered by it. But they aren't.
You can actually put an online reserve through to your home store through the website with no money down. Totally free, we'll still hold a copy.
This probably only applies to the US, Canada and (non-Europoor) Europe, though.
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Re: No Man's Sky - 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 planets to explore
« Reply #559 on: August 10, 2016, 02:50:50 pm »

Yeah, can't blame the man for this. He outright states, multiple times, that this is not a multiplayer game..

There are as much quotes of him telling the press it isn't competitive multiplayer but players will be able to meet each others

And also quotes about it being lobby'd multiplayer where players wouldn't be able to see all other players.

Never mind the potential for stuff they can't control like people playing through Strict NAT.
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Re: No Man's Sky - 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 planets to explore
« Reply #560 on: August 10, 2016, 02:59:19 pm »

IIRC Steam can do NAT punchthrough. Does PS4 not provide the same capability to developers?
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Re: No Man's Sky - 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 planets to explore
« Reply #561 on: August 10, 2016, 03:05:01 pm »

Yeah, can't blame the man for this. He outright states, multiple times, that this is not a multiplayer game..

There are as much quotes of him telling the press it isn't competitive multiplayer but players will be able to meet each others

And also quotes about it being lobby'd multiplayer where players wouldn't be able to see all other players.

Never mind the potential for stuff they can't control like people playing through Strict NAT.


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Re: No Man's Sky - 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 planets to explore
« Reply #562 on: August 10, 2016, 03:42:34 pm »

First day of release: videos of "The Developer Lied!" with no evidence and no statement from the company.

When I was a kid, somehow I thought the gaming industry wouldn't become this.
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Re: No Man's Sky - 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 planets to explore
« Reply #563 on: August 10, 2016, 03:53:21 pm »

The thing about preorders is that you can take them back if reviews look bad! We don't do anything with the money but apply it to your game when it comes out. Hard to be a scam when you can get your money back no questions asked. So, do your damn homework just like we've been doing here, and if you want a game, plunk $5 down on it and we'll hold one for you. If you don't want it, get your $5 back, and we'll sell it to someone else. Plain and simple.
If online preorders were a $5 reservation thing, I'd guess people would be less bothered by it. But they aren't.
You can actually put an online reserve through to your home store through the website with no money down. Totally free, we'll still hold a copy.
This probably only applies to the US, Canada and (non-Europoor) Europe, though.
Well, I work in the US for an American company, so I can only give you my point of view and the rules of said company.
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Re: No Man's Sky - 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 planets to explore
« Reply #564 on: August 10, 2016, 04:27:17 pm »

Yep, back to not reading about this game anymore. I knew that people were going to make a real shit-show out of it but I didn't think it would be this bad.

* IronTomato goes back to sleeping until he can download his copy

Seriously, I don't see why people are so surprised about what kind of game it is. The trailers say "Survive, fight, explore, trade" or whatever, and that's what you do, but for some reason people didn't get it until now. I don't see why everyone made it out to be fucking rocket science.
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Re: No Man's Sky - 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 planets to explore
« Reply #565 on: August 10, 2016, 04:33:28 pm »

people feeling cheated because of shitty marketing? looks like i was also right about that :v

really though, the marketing very obviously encouraged this kind of hype. they deserve any shit they get, even if they say "we didn't TECHNICALLY lie!!"
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Re: No Man's Sky - 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 planets to explore
« Reply #566 on: August 10, 2016, 04:38:16 pm »

Yeah, can't blame the man for this. He outright states, multiple times, that this is not a multiplayer game..

There are as much quotes of him telling the press it isn't competitive multiplayer but players will be able to meet each others

And also quotes about it being lobby'd multiplayer where players wouldn't be able to see all other players.

Never mind the potential for stuff they can't control like people playing through Strict NAT.


"the only way to see what you look like is to look at another player if you find them"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AE0nuW-mQ8A

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If we were to make a game where we synchronized every player, what they were doing with every other player, then that would be impossible and no one has ever done that. What we can do is, like many games that you have at the moment, where you are flying around with an open lobby. People are coming into that lobby and leaving it – like if you play Watch Dogs or something like that. Effectively, we have players joining your discrete space.

And the server was offline for most of launch day, hence discovery upload being down. So no player matching. Even if they hadn't also said that not all players could match with all other players.

Please, at least try to educate yourself on what's going on instead of repeating rantings from the steam forums verbatim.

IIRC Steam can do NAT punchthrough. Does PS4 not provide the same capability to developers?
Possibly not. It's also possible that they might not have used it--for example, I couldn't do Warframe multiplayer because of my NAT setting, despite playing it through Steam. If it's their own network infrastructure that could very well be a problem. Or, as above, it could just have been that the matchmaking wasn't working because the server was down. Or they deactivated multiplayer at launch to help reduce the load on the server and didn't think anyone would find each other that quickly.

people feeling cheated because of shitty marketing? looks like i was also right about that :v

really though, the marketing very obviously encouraged this kind of hype. they deserve any shit they get, even if they say "we didn't TECHNICALLY lie!!"
Sean has literally spent the past two years saying that this is not a multiplayer game, that you're not going to be able to interact meaningfully with other players, and that people who want that should play games that offer it. If some loony ignores all of that and daydreams about NMS being a MMO Space Minecraft then assumes that that's how the game is going to be, that's not marketing, it's mental illness.
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Re: No Man's Sky - 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 planets to explore
« Reply #567 on: August 10, 2016, 04:42:21 pm »

So what IS this game? Explore the vast emptiness of space simulator 2016?
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Re: No Man's Sky - 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 planets to explore
« Reply #568 on: August 10, 2016, 04:44:19 pm »

Sean has literally spent the past two years saying that this is not a multiplayer game, that you're not going to be able to interact meaningfully with other players, and that people who want that should play games that offer it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE0nuW-mQ8A

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Re: No Man's Sky - 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 planets to explore
« Reply #569 on: August 10, 2016, 04:46:46 pm »

Sean has literally spent the past two years saying that this is not a multiplayer game, that you're not going to be able to interact meaningfully with other players, and that people who want that should play games that offer it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0uYnwqlslU&feature=youtu.be&t=1m33s

^ this one million time this, but people denial is up to 11 it seems. (same argument you can find from Sean in the video I linked) if the CEO q&a aren't an official statement then I don't know what else could get these people out of stendhal's
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