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[Teneb]

You're either with me or you're my enemy!

"Only a Sith deals in absolutes." 

I've always wondered about that line from Revenge of the Sith. The statement is itself an absolute, so the person using it must also be a Sith, right?

And in the phantom menace darth maul has the high ground against Obi Wan and Obi Wan just jumps up and kills him like it's nothing.

Spoiler: *cough* (click to show/hide)

Maul didn't die from that. Or at least, pre-Disney retcon he survived.

Spoiler: more spoiler (click to show/hide)

I've yet to see stuff like rebels, but I think they did the same thing in the new canon. Dude just can't die.

[stabbymcstabstab]

You're either with me or you're my enemy!

"Only a Sith deals in absolutes." 

I've always wondered about that line from Revenge of the Sith. The statement is itself an absolute, so the person using it must also be a Sith, right?

And in the phantom menace darth maul has the high ground against Obi Wan and Obi Wan just jumps up and kills him like it's nothing.

Spoiler: *cough* (click to show/hide)

Maul didn't die from that. Or at least, pre-Disney retcon he survived.

Spoiler: more spoiler (click to show/hide)

I've yet to see stuff like rebels, but I think they did the same thing in the new canon. Dude just can't die.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Remember in KoTor2 where a sith lord survived being made out of ash and dust simply by hate and pain, and another by hunger. They rather tough bastards to kill and keep dead.

Anyway should I get this? I generally only buy two major games a year and I'm kinda on the fence about this one.

[Flying Dice]

...As with all games of this sort, the focus is on the player's ship. Obviously.

Yes, the devs are treading new ground here, so it's not unreasonable for them to be proud of it, but if you think that this isn't another game about a person and their ship I don't know what game you've been watching. It's not about the planets any more than (for another contemporary example) Elite: Dangerous is about the thousands of literally identical space stations.

So it's a game about a dude in a ship, but the advertising completely revolves around [ridiculous number] UNIQUE UNIQUE UNIQUE planets? Sounds pretty fucking dishonest to me.

Which is my main problem with the game. It's 60 bucks and advertising an entirely different game than it is.

What advertising? You mean the trailers in which the player is always either in the cockpit or very close to their ship? Which spend more time flying/in space than on a planetary surface? Which show precisely three planets?

Or perhaps you mean the Steam store description, which mentions the number of planets indirectly once and spends most of the length talking about exploration, flight, and self-imposed roles.

[Gabeux]

So it's a game about a dude in a ship, but the advertising completely revolves around [ridiculous number] UNIQUE UNIQUE UNIQUE planets? Sounds pretty fucking dishonest to me.

Which is my main problem with the game. It's 60 bucks and advertising an entirely different game than it is.

I already wrote like 3 replies about this. Why the hell does this keep coming back around to the game's marketing?
Why do you hate the game so much for the marketing that's probably done without any developer input?
What is this I can't even.

[heydude6]

Anyway should I get this? I generally only buy two major games a year and I'm kinda on the fence about this one.

You should wait for reviews and watch some unedited gameplay videos first. None of us in this thread have enough information to make your purchasing decision for you, and the majority of the people here are probably biased towards not buying it. It's always smart to wait for reviews in general, even for games you think you'll like because who knows how many game breaking bugs there are unless someone checks for themselves.

[miauw62]

So it's a game about a dude in a ship, but the advertising completely revolves around [ridiculous number] UNIQUE UNIQUE UNIQUE planets? Sounds pretty fucking dishonest to me.

Which is my main problem with the game. It's 60 bucks and advertising an entirely different game than it is.

I already wrote like 3 replies about this. Why the hell does this keep coming back around to the game's marketing?
Why do you hate the game so much for the marketing that's probably done without any developer input?
What is this I can't even.

Because that makes it a scam, just the same as every other game of this kind.

[Putnam]

Why do you hate the game so much for the marketing that's probably done without any developer input?

the lead developer is by far the biggest spokesperson for the game

he also outright said that different ship models will have different properties with regards to module fittings, cargo size, speed etc. and that appears to be 100% false with every ship model being the same, so this is the lead dev lying about things in marketing

unless that's a bug like the gun getting worse as it's upgraded

[LoSboccacc]

Anyway should I get this? I generally only buy two major games a year and I'm kinda on the fence about this one.

You should wait for reviews and watch some unedited gameplay videos first. None of us in this thread have enough information to make your purchasing decision for you, and the majority of the people here are probably biased towards not buying it. It's always smart to wait for reviews in general, even for games you think you'll like because who knows how many game breaking bugs there are unless someone checks for themselves.

this is especially true for any game with a launch day review embargo

[Brigands]

And so the hype balloons were all deflated in one fell swoop.
Also... did you guys really called mods when squabbling over a game?

As for the game.

It promised a large universe full of varying planets and gave the players just that making it a game about exploring stuff rather than anything else.
And if you expected X-Rebirth on an intergalactic scale made by one guy then sorry but your expectations were so high they're doing the Dr.Manhattan shuffle on the surface of the sun.

[Aklyon]

Obligatory "Can't we all just get along!?"

No, this is the argument thread. You'd want the happy thread.

[Shadowlord]

Obligatory "Can't we all just get along!?"

No, this is the argument thread. You'd want the happy thread.

Gentlemen! You can't fight in here! This is the war room!

[Biowraith]

No, this is the argument thread.

No it isn't.

[Ghills]

It promised a large universe full of varying planets and gave the players just that making it a game about exploring stuff rather than anything else.
And if you expected X-Rebirth on an intergalactic scale made by one guy then sorry but your expectations were so high they're doing the Dr.Manhattan shuffle on the surface of the sun.

Exactly. 

This game sounds like a great experiment with automatic generation, exploration and RPG trappings.  It's exactly up my alley afaict so I pre-ordered.  If you're uncertain, wait for reviews.

[Gabeux]

Why do you hate the game so much for the marketing that's probably done without any developer input?

the lead developer is by far the biggest spokesperson for the game

he also outright said that different ship models will have different properties with regards to module fittings, cargo size, speed etc. and that appears to be 100% false with every ship model being the same, so this is the lead dev lying about things in marketing

unless that's a bug like the gun getting worse as it's upgraded

I've watched some gameplay videos and even though I'd like to see more performance difference between the ship models, different ships did seem to handle differently, and the cargo size/module fittings (they are the same?) difference is definitely there.
Also, the ship models on 'leaked' videos seem to be like 1 tier over the other, and everyone I watched playing it sucked at the game or in FPSs in general, so I'd rather test it by myself.

People also seem to suck so much they have to look at the same recipe 100 times and STILL not be able to repair/craft whatever they need. I better just wait for the game.

[Neonivek]

As I said I have no idea if the game will be good or bad or not.

It certainly REALLY doesn't have good signs but that isn't my issue either.

I am just cheesed by the number of pre-orders where people basically made up what the game will be like in their head... not helped by the misleading marketing (apparently).