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[Beggars` Sect]

I mean everything's procedurally generated but there's not actually a ton of variation.

Well, you just divided by zero. It`s not an unusual approach to the subject, however a bit strange, given it`s voiced by a senior poster on these forums.

It`s kind of like saying that a forest looks all the same, there`s not much variation. View outside my window? Loads of buildings, kinda samey looking. Basically, it`s what you - your mind - does with this view, by means of interpretation.

Okay, it might be a bit crude comparison, since in videogaming the whole point is a bit different. There`s no way you can make a really large scale worlds without procedural generation, or at least some sort of recycling. You can chisel out a GTA or a Skyrim - spending a trainload of money - but a galaxy? No dice.

Another point: there is no "real" replayability without randomness...at least not in particular genres of single player gaming. This ties with permadeath and should be really a Roguelike 101, unnecessary to explain here.

Lastly, it`s back to your brain, and how it deals with it. You ever get it or you don`t. I should know, because for most of my gaming life I was stuck in the "non-random" mindset. I`m glad  I saw the light recently

[Catmeat]

Its priced the way it is because physical copies and sony. Nuff said

[thegoatgod_pan]

Its priced the way it is because physical copies and sony. Nuff said

Honestly, I feel about the price the way I feel that people should always charge for concerts and poetry readings: that there is no such thing as free art, that art takes time, work and therefore money, and that when we insist artists do their work for free, we are condemning them to poverty, only to later wonder why "starving artist" is such a stereotype. 

If indy artists charge as much as corporations, this just means they will be able to make a decent living and make more games.  If anything, we should ask why AAA titles charge so much, given how much they save through vertical integration and managing the distribution market.

[GrayFox]

It's a lot more worth the $60 than some other new games.

[boki]

It's a lot more worth the $60 than some other new games.

Wait, is the game released? In closed beta or something?

[Chiefwaffles]

It's a lot more worth the $60 than some other new games.

♪Opiiniooons♫

[GrayFox]

Yes, sorry.  I didn't think I could confuse people that easily.

It will (when it comes out) probably be a lot more worth it than some other games.

*shoot people*
*blow stuff up*
*shoot more people*
congrats, you saved the day, game over. come back again next year....
.... for the same thing, all over again, for another $60!

Nothing wrong with shooters, some are really fun but... I already made my point, I think.

[Retropunch]

The full description does sound pretty sweet, I'll admit.  It really depends on how unique and interesting these planets are.  The scavenging and upgrades gives it some longevity that pure exploration doesn't have.  My main concern there is what survival actually constitutes.  Survival as in gathering food and water is a fucking chore and drowns the rest of the game in drudgery.

As for the randomness, I think that's still a concern even with dorf forts.  maybe especially with dorfs.  I mean everything's procedurally generated but there's not actually a ton of variation.  All the towns look the same, the geography is generally similar, everyone has a detailed history but none of it matters, etc.

I have to agree - if the planets really are wildly different from each other than I can imagine a sort of 'just one more world' (instead of 'just one more turn') feeling, but if they're just slightly different copies then the rest of the gameplay will really have to be awesome.

I really like the core concept that the final goal (to get to the centre of the galaxy) is a goal which is really difficult to achieve, and I can imagine that'll push me onwards, but my worry is that there isn't much in terms of difficulty scaling. If it's all procedurally generated, it's unlikely that there will be much of a difficulty curve. I'll be interested to see what they do with that though.

[Lukeinator]

The full description does sound pretty sweet, I'll admit.  It really depends on how unique and interesting these planets are.  The scavenging and upgrades gives it some longevity that pure exploration doesn't have.  My main concern there is what survival actually constitutes.  Survival as in gathering food and water is a fucking chore and drowns the rest of the game in drudgery.

As for the randomness, I think that's still a concern even with dorf forts.  maybe especially with dorfs.  I mean everything's procedurally generated but there's not actually a ton of variation.  All the towns look the same, the geography is generally similar, everyone has a detailed history but none of it matters, etc.

I have to agree - if the planets really are wildly different from each other than I can imagine a sort of 'just one more world' (instead of 'just one more turn') feeling, but if they're just slightly different copies then the rest of the gameplay will really have to be awesome.

I really like the core concept that the final goal (to get to the centre of the galaxy) is a goal which is really difficult to achieve, and I can imagine that'll push me onwards, but my worry is that there isn't much in terms of difficulty scaling. If it's all procedurally generated, it's unlikely that there will be much of a difficulty curve. I'll be interested to see what they do with that though.

I'm pretty sure some stuff has been said about things getting harder and weirder the closer you get to the center of the galaxy.

[Dorsidwarf]

It's a lot more worth the $60 than some other new games.

Wait, is the game released? In closed beta or something?

Available for pre orders.

[Catmeat]

Yes the price is nothing. I can work for 3 hours to buy it and I will easily play more that 3 hours, no hype just seeing the confirmed gameplay and I like.
Greyfox you are absolutely right.
Lets buy another shooter with the first 3 levels polished to a mirror sheen and kill some more evil archtypical terrorists just because I am the chosen one that can handle being shot hundreds of times before my vision enters red rage mode only to count down from ten to prevent my high blood pressure killing me.
Games are fucking rediculous nowdays, only shooter im going to play in the future is an acurate one with organs and bones that can be shot to accurate effect.
Im over this crap they pass off to use, seriously 3 years of development and its a smoother copy paste of engine controls and character models, oh but we needed the 3 years to paint the guys pant stiching and his indepth story.
Fuuuuck.
This rant is far from over.

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fucking cunts then only to join an online game to hear some prepubecent cunt on the mic babling or singing and not even fucking listening to everybody telling them to fuck the shut up. Or the occasional pedophile asking their name and age, who are these fucking parents anyway!
Or even people using the mic to chat about their day then complaining when you didnt save them from being shot.
Or ignoring any sense of teamwork, are you all fucking rambo in the last fucking 15 minutes of first blood?!

So im pretty glad these guys are making a fun space survival game not about eating 0g chickpeas
And the language learning is a neat little touch. Sure many will dislike it. But yoy dont need to interact with the sentient aliens, you may blast them if you feel the need

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because the industry trained you that way

and down the line a race that hates the blasted race may favour your actions.
I like how alot of people have no clue about this game or think it will be boring because they wont be disapointed when the next call of shit, or pat benatar love is a battlefield 5 comes out, they can consume their low calorie meals.
Im looking for proper games and will never buy a shit game like the masses do

[spümpkin]

Yes, well, following up that remark, I mostly just wanted to leave this here. https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/49ex7d/what_is_no_mans_sky_my_definitive_fool_proof/
This may be exactly the same thing you saw on the gamespot article, but it has some links to other interesting articles just on the main page of the subreddit. It's not actually all crazed hype.

But personally, I'll buy this. I really quite enjoy explorationandotherstuff-in-space games, so this is right up my alley. Each to their own, I guess.

[puke]

wow.

[GrayFox]

wow.

Vague. Why wow? Wow at what?  The Reddit thing?

[Daggoth]

Posting to watch! Game looks outstanding so far, I hope it stays the course.