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Author Topic: What's the best weapon choice? And searching for a spoiler.  (Read 13489 times)

bahihs

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Re: What's the best weapon choice? And searching for a spoiler.
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2015, 05:24:58 pm »

Another issue is availability. Unless you have your own fortress packed with steel/candy weapons of all kinds or you start as a Dwarf, you will have trouble finding certain steel weapons.

The easiest to find is the Steel Battle-Axe, with Steel Pick a close second. This is because dwarves in Fortresses and Hillocks can have them even if they aren't military dwarves (i.e woodcutters and miners)

After that I would say, Steel Spear (though I've only ever found 1). And I have yet to find any other type of weapon (I've been looking for a steel sword for so long now...)

Which is why crushing weapons are usually quite good, since silver is far more common than steel.

If you are looking for something that can kill everything, I think the silver warhammer will do you good. All other weapons have a tough time with things like Bronze Colossetes (i.e if the weapon is inferior to steel). But ultimately it comes down to skill. With Legendary skills the choice weapon no longer matters, you can kill titans with blades of grass, your own blood and vomit, by throwing water at them, etc. etc.

 
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Re: What's the best weapon choice? And searching for a spoiler.
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2015, 05:55:26 pm »

using macro's can make for some deadly combo's I've killed a dragon by a well thrown large dagger, also I became able to pinch off some limbs just using a macro to repeatedly pinch an unconscious creatures limb easily leveling up wrestling. Sometimes I try to take the most underpowered/unused weapon for fun and FUN.
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Re: What's the best weapon choice? And searching for a spoiler.
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2015, 07:15:27 pm »

How do you know the height?
Somehow, if you spawn your adventurer in your fort and then use dwarf therapist, you'll be able to connect it while playing adventure mode.
That works, thanks. As long as you don't close the game after retiring your fortress you can use the Therapist to take a look at adventurers spawned at the location.

I have tested it a bit, noticed something a bit weird, or maybe I'm not fully understanding it.
So, I made a human fortress in fortress mode, just to "be sure that I get adventurers being able to one-hand wield two-hand weapons". Then I retired that fortress and created a (human) adventurer there. I'd get people of up to ~83'000cm³ - but they'd not wield a two-hand sword in one hand. Then I got a human who's description says "He has incredible muscles stretched over a broad body." while only having a size of 69'980cm³ and he wields the two-hand sword in one hand when he has both hands free. (I tried getting a dwarf able to wield a two-handed sword one handed, but I guess that requires both a "tall" and "broad" body. So far I only saw "tall" after dozens of adventurers. Just interested in whether that'd even be possible...)



Of course it can be lots of FUN to use whatever is available as a weapon, that's why I ran around wielding the mighty cave blob corpses for a few hundred squishy goblin-kills. Who needs a shield when you can dodge? ... just don't try to beat bogeyman with that.



Yes, finding steel weapons or armor is almost impossible. I remember finding a full set of steel armor with a dwarf in an almost completly evil pocket-sized world in v0.34 ... increased his chances of survival by quite a lot! I wish it was a bit more available actually, just as overall armor should be more used by enemis in adventure mode. At some point you just slaughter through hordes of goblins, especially if you already became a "necromancer-vampire axe lord dwarf" or such ... then again, making it to that point, especially if you enjoy FUN a lot, is another story.
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Re: What's the best weapon choice? And searching for a spoiler.
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2015, 07:41:32 pm »

Using your fists is the most honorable fighting style! Rip them apart with your bare hands! For Armok!
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Re: What's the best weapon choice? And searching for a spoiler.
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2015, 08:14:30 pm »

Wait you can build forts as humans?! Aroint thee witch!

How is this possible? Is it a mod or just raw-editing?
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« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2015, 08:27:19 pm »

Using your fists is the most honorable fighting style! Rip them apart with your bare hands! For Armok!
Last time I met a bogeyman, he strongly disagreed with my dwarf using that way of fighting.
He said I should use a shield and then kicked me in the head.

Wait you can build forts as humans?! Aroint thee witch!

How is this possible? Is it a mod or just raw-editing?
Raw editing. No idea how well it would work for a real fort, but it works for just embarking and retiring it.
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Re: What's the best weapon choice? And searching for a spoiler.
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2015, 02:19:59 am »

One surefire way to get steel: find a spot in a suitable world you can plunk a fort down, rush to steel generation above all else, whip up a nice set of gear, then grab the most suitable dorf > mode set 2 (arena mode) > control creature > mode set 1 (adventurer mode) > dfusion > 2 (adventurer tools) > 2 (change adventurer, so you don't swap bodies each time you travel) and there ya go.

Tried that earlier, and found something amazing... nah, gonna post it in the what's going on thread since it's a derail here.
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