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[Hellheart]

For some reason I missed that the Serpents have Standard. That offsets the morale malus by itself.

[Criptfeind]

It seems that a imprisoned Neteret of Joy can be taken with Nature9 Earth4 with order3, production3, heat3, and two negative things at dominion 8. If I wanted to go with the funny "bless yon shamans" approach, would that be how I do it then?

[E. Albright]

Something like that, yeah. Don't forget it also makes your Shrouds quite nice.

[Akhier the Dragon hearted]

I was about to put the game up when I realized no one commented on my map changes. Did anyone check what I did out?

[Criptfeind]

Sorry, I don't really even know enough about maps to comment. But I will anyway! It looks very nice compared to the default maps. Although I guess it will not wrap both ways? It looks like it has a lot of hidden underground passages, which is something I've not seen before. Also there isn't a white dot in the east most cave, that I can see at least. I might just be missing it.

[Akhier the Dragon hearted]

   Thank you for taking a look but for this I must admit I do need someone with experience in maps because I am asking about the edits to the .map file. I basically fixed some provinces that didn't have proper connections and added more no starts. The thing is I haven't done this much so I wanted others opinions.

Anyway since it was on a previous page the changes are such

Code: (leakingland Changelog for v2 to v3) [Select]

Nostart added to 1, 8, 10, 13, 16, 27, 30, 31, 46, 53, 61, 78, 85, 87, 89, 106, 111, 123, 127, 129, and 134
Mountain added to 47
Swamp added to 102
Connections added between 4 to 10, 29 to 34, and 100 to 112

Spoiler: leakingland.map (click to show/hide)

Code: [Select]

--
-- Map file for Dominions 4
--
-- Illwinter Game Design
-- www.illwinter.com
--
-- Changelog for v1 to v2
-- Nostart added to 56 and 62
-- Landname "Plains of Latmagicman" added to 113
-- Connections added between 45 to 54; 69 to 80; 70 to 80; 71 to 80; 72 to 85; 73 to 91; 74 to 91 and 92; 75 to 92; 76 to 85; 78 to 92; 79 to 80 and 85; 80 to 84 and 87; 84 to 95; 85 to 86, 87, 94, 99, and 109; 87 to 95; 88 to 92; 89 to 91; 91 to 100, 102, and 103; 92 to 98, 100, 105, and 106; 95 to 107 and 108; 97 to 103; 103 to 104, 117, and 118; 112 to 113; and 113 to 115 and 131
--
-- Changelog for v2 to v3
-- Nostart added to 1, 8, 10, 13, 16, 27, 30, 31, 46, 53, 61, 78, 87, 89, 106, 111, 123, 127, 129, and 134
-- Mountain added to 47
-- Landname "Mountains of Akhier Dragonheart" added to 110
-- Swamp added to 102
-- Connections added between 4 to 10, 29 to 34, and 100 to 112

-- Title and image file
#dom2title Leaking Land v3
#imagefile leakingland.tga
#domversion 350
#hwraparound
#description "A fragment of a world which a great earthquake shattered. A few of it's beautiful lakes have already leaked away, and the rest seem to be following soon. This, however, does not seem to hinder the pretenders trying to claim the throne of the pantokrator. Fixed version of 2.1.2015 by Akhier the Dragon hearted based on the Fixed version of 16.5.2014, which was thanks to latmagicman."

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#terrain 129 576
#terrain 130 0
#terrain 131 16
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#terrain 133 528
#landname 134 "The End"
#terrain 134 512
#terrain 135 0

-- Province neighbours
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-- Special per province commands

--


[/quote]

Edit: added nostart to 85

[E. Albright]

Um. If I were editing that map, all the water but 95 would be nostarted, as that's the only one that gives even 3 water-water connections. At a very bare minimum I'd nostart 85 and its awful one water connection.

Past that I see nothing glaring.

[Akhier the Dragon hearted]

   Ah, Good catch with that. I completely missed that it had only one other sea connection. Admittedly that does reduce a water nation to 3 starts but really. Not like we where going to be guessing on where to find Atlantis. Unlike our planet this map isn't mostly water. Looking at it I probably mistook the island in the middle of it for another sea connection. I have made the changes to my files.

[Akhier the Dragon hearted]

Okay I have the game up now. You can start submitting your pretenders. We are using leakinglands v3 which you can get Here

[Criptfeind]

Alright. I've submitted my dude.

[dennislp3]

Submitted!

[Elfeater]

Making my dude, will submit quickly.

[tompliss]

Atlantis is a go
(since yesterday)

ah ah, 414 is laucnhing faster than 413 ! :p

[Akhier the Dragon hearted]

Mine is now in. Also to be fair to 413 I have admined 3 previous games before.

[Delta Foxtrot]

Well they are going with a randomly genned map. It's a lot easier to just whip out a few premade ones and say "'tis pretty ain't it!"

I'll get mine in in a few hours. I'll first do 410 turn and then waffle a bit. I'm usually asleep for a few hours more anyway so I'm taking the difference to not regret anything two months down the line.

edit:
Pangaea is in.