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justicarab

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lazy doctors... i should sue them!!! (jk)
« on: December 20, 2014, 05:52:20 pm »

so i have 3 injured dwarfs, all of them with something "torn apart and infected" (foot toe and/digit) and a smashed infected foot sounds like a serious thing, especially when few of them are military.... i have a hospital with thread/cloth, buckets, splints and soap. is it something i'm missing?
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Re: lazy doctors... i should sue them!!! (jk)
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2014, 07:14:16 pm »

Are the dwarves in the hospital, or are they still staggering about your fortress?
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2014, 07:53:37 pm »

the hospital is empty and a few of them are training
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Re: lazy doctors... i should sue them!!! (jk)
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2014, 08:16:25 pm »

Well then it was their own fault.

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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2014, 08:22:19 pm »

haha, so even though dwarf therapist is saying it's infected and smashed, they're ok? or is this a...

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Re: lazy doctors... i should sue them!!! (jk)
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2014, 08:32:35 pm »

I don't know. It seems infected dwarves usually don't need treatements (no antibiotics?).
But a rotten dwarf(usually has a fever) can be treated as far as I can tell, the surgeon will cut the rotten tissues (can be dangerous since the dorf loses a lot of blood).

A full hospital set includes: thread, cloth(?), soap, splint, plaster powder, traction bench, bed and bag.
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Health_care#Equipment

Well actually I only saw traction bench in use for one time, and I never saw how they apply a cast.
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2014, 08:46:27 pm »

If a dwarf doesn't start the rest task, usually they won't ever. There are ways to knock them out and force it, though. Consider a cave in.
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2014, 09:21:26 pm »

well they have had the infection tag for months, maybe year+ on dwarf therapist....
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2014, 09:27:30 pm »

If only 1 or 2 wounds is infected, it usually won't kill a dwarf. Each infected wound causes effectively blood loss, so it will make your dwarves more vulnerable to dying of that, I think.
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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2014, 10:45:52 pm »

I didn't know til recently that water quality can cause infections :| Apparently they need to get water from a tile that doesn't have a muddy bottom (which means just make your main hospital water area 2-z deep, then they'll get water off the top tile, which has no floor)..
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Re: lazy doctors... i should sue them!!! (jk)
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2014, 11:12:28 pm »

It helps to have a many z-level deep well, but if they're not going near the hospital, the wound won't be washed. The best way to cure infection is soap, though, not just water.

If they really won't go to hospital, you could arrange a nonfatal "accident" for them to be re-injured. Then while they're in hospital, both injuries will be treated, not just the new one. Some of them will go in to the hospital for the slightest injuries, others will refuse the hospital even though they have only three limbs instead of the four they were born with. It all depends on their temperament, I think.

Trivia: Dwarf Therapist is not necessary to see the injuries they are carrying around. I play vanilla, and can still see if a dwarf has a broken toe or an infected wound.
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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2014, 12:34:59 pm »

the injury is over 2 years old lol (by checking dwarf, not therapist, thank you for advice). so is the infection permanent?
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« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2014, 01:05:57 pm »

Infections can last for years, but I believe I've seen occasional cases where it is healed spontaneously. As far as I know, doctors don't heal infections (but rather, wounds can get infected while the doctors tour around the golf courses rather than treating the patients).
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« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2014, 01:15:11 pm »

so what am i to do about all these smashed toes and fingers?
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Re: lazy doctors... i should sue them!!! (jk)
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2014, 02:24:05 pm »

Infections function gameplay-wise basically as a very slowly bleeding wound. Healthy enough dwarves will be able to replace their blood fast enough to counter it and suffer no ill effects (except maybe a slight ability to bleed out easier from future wounds), while less healthy ones (or ones with bigger wounds) will eventually become faint and pale and then "succumb to infection". If the wounds are that old than they shouldn't be having any ill effects on your dwarves, so I'd just ignore them.

And yeah, the only way for infections to heal is naturally.
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