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Naryar

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Re: fun changes to the raws
« Reply #60 on: December 31, 2014, 03:59:25 am »

Only one mention of changing ethics to make eating sapients acceptable? I guess people have enough excess from regular sources that extracting organics out of goblinite isn't necessary.

I used to mod that everytime I played. Now since the last version, not so much.

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Re: fun changes to the raws
« Reply #61 on: December 31, 2014, 09:30:36 am »

Why would you want sapient consumption?

I changed my dwarf ethics to capital punishment before, which iirc makes it possible  but  Im not sure who gets the hammer: the cook, butcher, or consumer.
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Re: fun changes to the raws
« Reply #62 on: December 31, 2014, 09:34:40 am »

Why would you want sapient consumption?

*kobold meat roasts* x13

also makes it easier to make bone bolts from the bones your hated enemy (goblins, kobolds, elves... pick your poison) and use these against them.

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Re: fun changes to the raws
« Reply #63 on: December 31, 2014, 10:38:25 am »

I normaly just make elfs,humans, goblins, trolls and kobolds trainable/wartrainable for my fighting arena  :P .
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Oh and i give the milkable tag to elves and human females, mhhhh they produce great cheese.
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Urist Tilaturist

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Re: fun changes to the raws
« Reply #64 on: December 31, 2014, 01:37:17 pm »

The only ethic raw I change is for humans to accept the torture of animals. I have no idea why they currently reject it, given that according to the wiki their ethics "match real humans in past times", who enjoyed sports like bear baiting and burned cats to counter witchcraft.

Eating sapients is unnecessary and should really cause prion diseases if dwarves do it, sending some slowly insane until they react with predictable consequences.
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Re: fun changes to the raws
« Reply #65 on: December 31, 2014, 07:19:20 pm »

You're right; prion disease really would explain a lot about dwarves.
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Re: fun changes to the raws
« Reply #66 on: January 01, 2015, 07:12:25 am »

But it currently does not, because they do not eat sapients. My point is that if they do, based on somebody modding the raws, they should get prion diseases and slowly go insane, eventually unleashing the !!fun!! we all love.
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Re: fun changes to the raws
« Reply #67 on: January 01, 2015, 07:57:23 am »

... Why would eating sapients cause prion diseases.

E: Sure, it's a transmission vector, but dwarves breathing doesn't cause aerosol-transmitted diseases to spontaneously appear.

I you eat an infected individual you'll get the disease, sure. But they have to be infected in the first place, that isn't caused by cannibalism itself.
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Re: fun changes to the raws
« Reply #68 on: January 01, 2015, 08:31:10 am »

Catching prion diseases is most likely by eating the nervous system and brain. Sapients have bigger brains.

That seems to be the most likely answer. We know that in places where cannibalism was common, many people suffered from a prion disease called kuru which caused insanity.

Prions are mutated proteins, and given how much variance there is in DF offspring there must be some mutation going on. Having a very small chance of a creature having a prion disease, and it spreading to anyone who eats its brain or nervous system, would be a very good addition to punish those elves.

Diseases in general need to be added, having 200 dwarves in cramped underground quarters should cause more problems than mere miasma.
« Last Edit: January 01, 2015, 08:34:18 am by Urist Uristurister »
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Re: fun changes to the raws
« Reply #69 on: January 01, 2015, 12:48:54 pm »


Oh and i give the milkable tag to elves and human females, mhhhh they produce great cheese.

Do you mean (elf and human) females, or (elves) and (human females)?

(Either way - Eeewww!)
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Re: fun changes to the raws
« Reply #70 on: January 01, 2015, 02:14:44 pm »

Catching prion diseases is most likely by eating the nervous system and brain. Sapients have bigger brains.

That seems to be the most likely answer. We know that in places where cannibalism was common, many people suffered from a prion disease called kuru which caused insanity.

Prions are mutated proteins, and given how much variance there is in DF offspring there must be some mutation going on. Having a very small chance of a creature having a prion disease, and it spreading to anyone who eats its brain or nervous system, would be a very good addition to punish those elves.

Diseases in general need to be added, having 200 dwarves in cramped underground quarters should cause more problems than mere miasma.
That's a very big assumption, especially since it seems to be based on a few cases, since kuru is endemic to new Guinea.
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they wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the raving confessions of a mass murdering cannibal from a recipe to bake a pie.
Knowing Belgium, everyone will vote for themselves out of mistrust for anyone else, and some kind of weird direct democracy coalition will need to be formed from 11 million or so individuals.

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Re: fun changes to the raws
« Reply #71 on: January 01, 2015, 06:39:42 pm »

Ritual cannibalism involving eating the brain and nervous system was practiced among the Fore people in New Guinea. They could just have been unlucky to have prions in the area.
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