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Sasquatch

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Homosexual livestock need tweaking?
« on: December 17, 2014, 07:21:28 pm »

Two games in a row, both of my boars have liked boars. Also in both games 2/3 sows have liked sows. I know I could start with more animals, or buy from traders, but this seems a bit much. The wiki says there is a 1.2% chance of homosexuality. I'm experiencing over 50% here. Out of 5 pigs, only 1 is interested in breeding.



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Re: Homosexual livestock need tweaking?
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2014, 07:28:31 pm »

Bad luck?
Well, you know I embarked with 6 animals, all of them are female! ::)

But after I bought some males from the merchants, soon I found I had to geld most of the males or my fort be drowned by kittens/puppies.
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Re: Homosexual livestock need tweaking?
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2014, 07:34:29 pm »

How exactly are you determining your animals' sexuality? It could be that they're simply "uninterested" or "unwilling to marry", which has been brought up a number of times as a problem.
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Re: Homosexual livestock need tweaking?
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2014, 07:50:51 pm »

You can't without using Therapist, unfortunately.

I just geld all adults and slaughter the extra. When the puppies grow up, I wait for new born puppies then geld and kill the older ones.
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Re: Homosexual livestock need tweaking?
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2014, 08:16:23 pm »

How exactly are you determining your animals' sexuality? It could be that they're simply "uninterested" or "unwilling to marry", which has been brought up a number of times as a problem.

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Re: Homosexual livestock need tweaking?
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2014, 08:26:49 pm »

Bad luck?
Well, you know I embarked with 6 animals, all of them are female! ::)
Wasn't that a deliberate choice? They're sold by gender.
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Re: Homosexual livestock need tweaking?
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2014, 08:48:09 pm »

Bad luck?
Well, you know I embarked with 6 animals, all of them are female! ::)
Wasn't that a deliberate choice? They're sold by gender.
No I always use "Play Now!". It's random.
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Re: Homosexual livestock need tweaking?
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2014, 11:37:08 pm »

It's true there's only a 1.5% chance for homosexuality, but there's a far higher chance for asexuality or bisexuality. There's a roll for attraction to each gender with the default chances being 75% for not homosexual 20% for being willing to enter lover but not marrying and 5% for marrying with the reverse for heterosexual. For animals this ends up meaning a 25% of not having children because animals need to be willing to marry to have children. I think there's a simple fix in just allowing non-civilized creatures to breed at lover status leaving a 5% chance of not being able to have children which I think is good considering that it is something that can happen in real life.
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Its a feature. Impregnating booze is a planned tech tree for dwarves and this is a sneak peek at it.
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Re: Homosexual livestock need tweaking?
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2014, 12:02:50 am »

If you add [ORIENTATION:MALE:0:0:100][ORIENTATION:FEMALE:100:0:0] to the female caste and [ORIENTATION:FEMALE:0:0:100][ORIENTATION:MALE:100:0:0] to the male caste, the given creature will be effectively heterosexual.
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Re: Homosexual livestock need tweaking?
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2014, 12:47:52 am »

You can use gui/gm-editor with DFHack to make critters straight.

I'm not making a script for that because it makes me feel icky.

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Re: Homosexual livestock need tweaking?
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2014, 03:17:57 am »

I'm not making a script for that because it makes me feel icky.
I'm just thinking about your male pregnancy thing and wondering how this is any worse.
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Re: Homosexual livestock need tweaking?
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2014, 03:26:20 am »

Mostly possible sadism.

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Re: Homosexual livestock need tweaking?
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2014, 03:09:07 pm »

That's the odd part though. I have 0 bisexual animals currently in this game. RNG hates me and doesn't want me to have food.

I will look into the DFHack thing to fix one of the boars. Hopefully I won't feel "icky" lol. :)
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