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smeeprocket

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Re: Females in Games? Thread
« Reply #1665 on: January 04, 2015, 06:56:14 pm »
it reminds me of this part in Sandman.

Lucifer gets access to a world of his own and departs, and god sends these angels down to hell to rule over it since he needs to be replaced. Only, they try to give the suffering in hell morality and purpose, they want it done for righteous and noble reasons, and suddenly hell is so so so mucvh worse for the souls there.
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Re: Females in Games? Thread
« Reply #1666 on: January 04, 2015, 06:58:21 pm »
The problem with that is that in the Bible, Satan himself is thrown into hell at the end of time. Nobody is in heaven or hell now, according to the Bible; that happens at the end of time, after the last judgement, and Satan goes into the pit of fire with everybody else condemned as a prisoner. Even Dante's account shows that Satan does not really rule hell gleefully, but is stuck at the bottom of it and is suffering himself.
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« Reply #1667 on: January 04, 2015, 06:59:14 pm »
Quote from: Urist Uristurister on January 04, 2015, 06:58:21 pm
The problem with that is that in the Bible, Satan himself is thrown into hell at the end of time. Nobody is in heaven or hell now, according to the bible; that happens at the end of time, and Satan goes into the pit of fire with everybody else as a prisoner.

... it's a comic, not a religious book. Batman makes an appearance in the very first episode. I don't think they were entirely working on accuracy.
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« Reply #1668 on: January 04, 2015, 07:01:14 pm »
I would make a comment about the accuracy of the Bible, but that could lead to a very nasty turn of the argument indeed so I shall not. It is more a case of being true to the source material than being accurate.
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« Reply #1669 on: January 04, 2015, 07:01:52 pm »
Quote from: Urist Uristurister on January 04, 2015, 07:01:14 pm
I would make a comment about the accuracy of the Bible, but that could lead to a very nasty turn of the argument indeed so I shall not. It is more a case of being true to the source material than being accurate.

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it's a comic. It's doesn't have to be true to anything.

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« Reply #1670 on: January 04, 2015, 07:04:50 pm »
It does not have to be true to anything. I just personally find it better when adaptations of something stay close to the source material.
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« Reply #1671 on: January 04, 2015, 07:06:12 pm »
Sandman isn't an adaptation, it is an independent story.
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Re: Females in Games? Thread
« Reply #1672 on: January 04, 2015, 07:07:48 pm »
yea I don't remember Batman or the Endless being mentioned in the Bible.
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« Reply #1673 on: January 04, 2015, 07:10:35 pm »
It is an independent story that features other people's characters. However, I am in no position to tell them what to do, especially since all Bible characters are public domain anyway.
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« Reply #1674 on: January 04, 2015, 07:15:43 pm »
Quote from: Urist Uristurister on January 04, 2015, 07:10:35 pm
It is an independent story that features other people's characters. However, I am in no position to tell them what to do, especially since all Bible characters are public domain anyway.

you are way too obsessed with realism. It's fiction, and it's a comic, I think you would be hard-pressed to find a comic that follows anything but it's own reality. I mean, this universe has Superman, that's not realistic at all.

It's a graphic story. Not every story has to follow the same lines. Sometimes, they take a concept and make it their own. There's even a side comic which I love all about Lucifer.

Plus Sandman was originally written by Neil Gaiman, but I suspect you'd hate his works because his stories aren't really mired down by reality and are generally fantastical.

God, I like you Urist, but you are an odd duck sometimes.
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Re: Females in Games? Thread
« Reply #1675 on: January 04, 2015, 07:16:53 pm »
Quote from: smeeprocket on January 04, 2015, 07:15:43 pm
you are way too obsessed with realism
This. A thousand times this.
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Re: Females in Games? Thread
« Reply #1676 on: January 04, 2015, 07:18:20 pm »
Since my point was that it did not fit the Bible's account, which might possibly not be entirely realistic, I would not say this was about realism, but I have mentioned the subject many times in this thread.

I can accept being odd, but a duck? Quack, quack, I guess.
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Re: Females in Games? Thread
« Reply #1677 on: January 04, 2015, 10:33:27 pm »
Removed the latest transgender discussion and warned somebody.  I'm sorry I had to remove the whole thing, but it started from a bad place.
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« Reply #1678 on: January 04, 2015, 10:39:16 pm »
Getting back on topic then....

There seem to be a growing number of games where one may play either a male or female character.

Of these, I particularly recommend Fallout: New Vegas, as you also have the opportunity to assassinate a misogynistic warlord (and, at your discretion, also mutilate his corpse)
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« Reply #1679 on: January 04, 2015, 10:44:15 pm »
To admit though you always could play a man or woman in the fallout series.

IN FACT! It actually mattered if you were male or female in Fallout 1 and 2. (Ps. It was almost always better to play a female)

It is one of only three games I know of where playing a male or female actually has a noticeable effect on your playthrough.
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