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[Orange Wizard]

Not trolling. Not complaining about how Deboche runs his fort, he can do what ever he wants.

I think it belongs here cause it is about game play.

But what's the relevance? Hey look, this guy is doing something sexist in a fictional setting? Who cares?

[utunnels]

Well, does DF have size and other attributes (strength, agility, toughness, etc) modifers for different genders?

[Naryar]

Shield-babies are a long standing tradition of DF.

I don't discriminate by genders and I don't see why would I even bother. Sometimes babies are used as blunt instruments which is always fun.

The only gender-thing that bothers me is when I see male dwarves wearing dresses or that kind of thing (loincloths, etc). Even though I'm just "what" and don't change anything, and hell if the dwarf is sufficiently badass he can wear anything. No one's going to mock the legendary axedwarf for wearing a dress.

Now considering I modded my dwarves to have higher than usual martial prowess values, quite a bit of my dwarves want to be legendary warriors.

I usually get these into the military unless they are otherwise necessary to fort, and I of course get the migrants with military skills into the military as well, if they have no better skill that is useful to me.

tl;dr dwarves are basically genderless anyway, so what's the point of sex segregation ?

[Sutremaine]

Well, does DF have size and other attributes (strength, agility, toughness, etc) modifers for different genders?

A few kinds of wildlife have differently-sized sexes. Not dwarves or any other main civ races though.

[taptap]

"Popcap and childcap greatly increase humanity in dwarf fortress." - Yes, very much. Many of the DF-memes floating around are people acting out on default settings as long as there is a permanent stream of migrants and pulling a self-destroy lever after five years in game. When I run a fortress long term, but w/ low pop cap, I don't even look at initial skills ("useless cheesemaker") but abilities and preferences when assigning dwarves to jobs, child raising and safety is a core activity once you run along mainly natural growth lines ("useless children") and legendary conversationalist (or just an in-fortress-marriage) are the highest achievements of dwarven science in the current state of the game after the emotion rewrite ("useless socialising"). If I ever get married couples out of my marriage science experiments I will sure as hell keep both of them out of frontline duty.

[Aslandus]

I just recruit whoever has skills/doesn't have a job at the time of recruiting... if they happen to be a female with a baby, I station them outside while the danger room is running... you know, because impaled babies are not very good for morale...

[than402]

me, i just don't care. male, female or whatever, if you have combat skills and not anything else extraordinary, you're drafted. if you're dumb enough to bring your baby in close combat, well that's natural selection at its finest. this is dwarf fortress, and i like to mod my games to be as hardcore as possible. you'll suffer a painful/messy/humiliating/all of the above death anyway...

[Arx]

I just recruit whoever. All they do is stand in a tower with a crossbow, unless they're legendary close quartes combatants, in which case not much bad can happen to them (citation needed). Gender equity!

[smeeprocket]

I think it's a great mental image. Wading into battle, baby strapped to her front, chopping off heads while the baby girbles and giggles. Warrior mom!

I probably wouldn't put those ladies in a danger room if I used them though.

[Graknorke]

I think the baby might be more giblets than girbles.

[Naryar]

Also, all-mother dwarf squad.

Shieldwalls ? Nah, BABYWALLS.

[Graknorke]

Also, all-mother dwarf squad.

Shieldwalls ? Nah, BABYWALLS.

You're acting like the two aren't synonyms.

[Thisfox]

The only gender-thing that bothers me is when I see male dwarves wearing dresses or that kind of thing (loincloths, etc). Even though I'm just "what" and don't change anything, and hell if the dwarf is sufficiently badass he can wear anything. No one's going to mock the legendary axedwarf for wearing a dress.

...Huh. It could be a cultural thing (I'm from Oz) but I thought the loincloth was a MALE item of clothing. Like boxer shorts, or the like. I mean, in tasteful pictures 100 years ago, people would dress the so-called "savages" (more civilised than the Europeans, usually, but times were like that) in loincloths in order to make them look less naked than the "civilised" world could stand.

And yes, the first time I found out my duke was wearing a dress, I was a bit amused, but soon worked out that the duchess was wearing the pants in that relationship, and shrugged. Good for him.

[Naryar]

The only gender-thing that bothers me is when I see male dwarves wearing dresses or that kind of thing (loincloths, etc). Even though I'm just "what" and don't change anything, and hell if the dwarf is sufficiently badass he can wear anything. No one's going to mock the legendary axedwarf for wearing a dress.

...Huh. It could be a cultural thing (I'm from Oz) but I thought the loincloth was a MALE item of clothing. Like boxer shorts, or the like. I mean, in tasteful pictures 100 years ago, people would dress the so-called "savages" (more civilised than the Europeans, usually, but times were like that) in loincloths in order to make them look less naked than the "civilised" world could stand.

Loinclothes are male items of clothing, yes.

But they seem a bit both too "savage" and also too exhibitionist for a race that has bad thoughts for not wearing full clothing.

I don't think dwarves actually wear these. But it was an example, maybe poorly chosen.

A better example would be thongs. ahem.

Also, all-mother dwarf squad.

Shieldwalls ? Nah, BABYWALLS.

You're acting like the two aren't synonyms.

They won't be as long as mothers pick up shields instead of babies when you order them to pick up shields.

[Urist Tilaturist]

The ancient Greeks and Romans never had any problems with men wearing dresses. Do not confuse dwarven culture with yours.

I have drafted female dwarves into marksdwarf or fortress guard squads before, but I never use them in close combat squads because of the tantrum-inducing effects of having babies smashed.