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[FelixSparks]

"... So it's possible to tap into both extremes? Interesting..." Buki couldn't help but wonder if that sort of power could be harnessed... And controlled.

[TheBiggerFish]

"I can hear you thinking that.  Don't, it's only going to end... Poorly.  Even with no experience with the latter type, things and their antitheses don't tend to react well."

[PrivateNomad]

"That is correct. Usually, despair is the point of return. For your own perseverance, do not dabble into the Anti-Spiral. The Spiral Nemesis is so close that your use of Spiral Energy is no longer of concern. Perhaps it is inevitable. Perhaps it is impossible to beat, and we will all perish."

[TheBiggerFish]

"... Maybe we could burn off the energy somehow."

[FelixSparks]

"... Contra? I'm gonna cut you some slack for being from a different culture, but normally using the word impossible gets you punched in the face. With Spiral Power, NOTHING is impossible. But noted, I'll steer clear of Anti-Spiral energy."

[TheBiggerFish]

"So if we believe hard enough, the problem goes away, huh?  ...There's an idea."

[PrivateNomad]

"That moves back to the old plan. Eradication of hope. It delays the inevitable, but it does not bypass it."

"... Contra? I'm gonna cut you some slack for being from a different culture, but normally using the word impossible gets you punched in the face. With Spiral Power, NOTHING is impossible. But noted, I'll steer clear of Anti-Spiral energy."

"Spiral Energy is capable of bypassing the laws of physics. Creation of matter and energy and such. But that very ability is what drives the Spiral Nemesis. Also, we were of the same culture. Were."

"So if we believe hard enough, the problem goes away, huh?  ...There's an idea."

"That seems to be your only hope at this moment."

[SOLDIER First]

"Nobody needs to be punched in the face yet, Buki."

[FelixSparks]

"Yet is the keyword there... But if Spiral Power can bypass laws of physics, can't we use it to increase the cap of Spiral Energy the universe can hold?"

[IamanElfCollaborator]

Ao shakes their head.
"Buki, that same kind of thought is what brought about the Spiral Nemesis. The thought that everything is easy to defeat with Spiral Power. I do not believe it is impossible to avert this fate, before you accuse me of such a thing, but we must look to other answers before we attempt to, as they say, fight fire with fire."

[PrivateNomad]

"You even witness it yourself. Do you not feel yourself getting stronger with each victory? Your power is evolving."

[TheBiggerFish]

"Eradicating hope won't work, though.  Because then we end up going the other way.

No...We need realism, don't we.  Has anyone tried realism yet?"

[IamanElfCollaborator]

Ao looks at their sword for a moment, thinking briefly on the old relic hanging from their waist in a tattered scabbard.
"Perhaps we could......either dump the Spiral Energy into a new universe.

Failing that......we could funnel it, somehow, and use it to create a new universe somehow. Use the energy and transform it into matter, as it did when this universe came into existence. That would work, right, turning all of this excess energy into matter, as we cannot destroy it?"

[TheBiggerFish]

"But if Spiral Energy breaks the laws of physics, it can break conservation of mass-energy..."

[IamanElfCollaborator]

"We're trying to figure out how to get rid of the energy without breaking physics further, are we not?"