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[FelixSparks]

".... No... Wait a moment. Tomas is right. It only exploded because I introduced Spiral Energy.... We need to get Leeron out here to study this thing, ASAP. We may have found something incredible."

As much as Buki disapproved of Anti-Spiral energy.... Maybe... Maybe this was the answer they were looking for...

[PrivateNomad]

 "Funny how you mention him, because he's already on his way."

[Xantalos]

"What are you thinking, Buki. I can't read your thoughts but I can see the way they're turning and I don't like it."

[Rolepgeek]

"The world's changed since your time, Tomas. For the better. Keeping it changing for the better means continuing to learn about stuff. This is the next stuff to learn about."

"I think, anyway. We can always break it later."

[FelixSparks]

"It's simple really... the Spiral Nemesis is caused due to too much Spiral Energy in our universe. So we need a way to counteract some of it. Anti-Spiral seems like it might be a good choice."

[Xantalos]

"It's simple really... the Spiral Nemesis is caused due to too much Spiral Energy in our universe. So we need a way to counteract some of it. Anti-Spiral seems like it might be a good choice."

"Bullshit! Bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit! We're not doing that."

[Rolepgeek]

"Give one good reason why not."

[Xantalos]

"Even if you disregard all the disrespect you commit to everyone who suffered and died under that thing's reign, how the fuck do you think anti-spiral power is generated in the first place?"

[Rolepgeek]

"It's a type of energy! The guy controlling it died. You wanna respect the people who died? Respect them by working for the present. If we all die anyway because there's too much Spiral Power, their sacrifice was meaningless."

[Xantalos]

"Yeah, it's a type of energy. A type of energy generated by breaking people's hopes and dreams, making them give into the inevitable. Do you want to be in charge of reforming the earth's government into a pointlessly tyrannical slave state? I don't."

[IamanElfCollaborator]

"He has a point. If you want to create hope for the future, using the energy produced from broken hope is not the way to do so."

[Rolepgeek]

"We find a way. That's what Spiral Energy is all about anyway, isn't it? You loop and you loop until you find a way past what you thought was impossible. Hell, if it's all about giving in, awareness campaigns and propaganda about how we're all doomed because there's no viable way to stop the Spiral Nemesis might work, even. If it's a choice between that and everyone dying in another Big Bang..."

A long, heavy pause.

"You do what you have to. To survive. To make sure the people you care about survive. You do what you have to. If you have a better idea for how to stop the Spiral Nemesis, old man, let us know. 'Til then, I don't think we have much of a choice."

[kj1225]

Galen isn't participating in this conversation as it's above his pay grade.

[Xantalos]

"We're Spiral creatures. We do what we need to in order to survive, to keep on moving and evolving. But not this. Never this.

If spiral power is powered by hope, what the Anti-Spirals use is powered by despair. The mindset you need to generate the stuff is completely antithetical to everything we as spiral brings stand for. Hell, even going beyond all that, the stuff hurts me. I don't know how I got like I am, but I'm an example of the fact that spiral power can even conquer death! If this stuff gets widespread used, I'll die. And I have too many things left to do to accept that.

Either way, I don't think we'll be the ones making the decision. Your dai-gurren folks have all the authority."

[kj1225]

"Of course, we do need to balance out our hope. Since we're having a philosophical discussion. Can't have a feeling without an absence of it."