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[Tacomagic]

NEW RULE #4:  All fortresses must pay a tribute of 10,000 urist times the number of years the fort has existed to the mountainhome each Fall.  If the fortress cannot pay the tribute for any reason (including the death of the traders coming on or going off the map, there is no trade depot, etc) the fortress is considered a failure and must be abandoned.

Spoiler: The Rise and Fall of SwallowPillar (click to show/hide)

Excerpts from the Journal of TacoMagic Asaved, Expidition Leader of Swallowpillar,



Early Summer,

Welp, here we are finally, a blighted land of snow and clay.  The King of the mountainhome needed a fitting punishment for those of us who were reaching too far above our stations, and he certainly found it this time.  We're to make an outpost here in this... whereever we are.



I was told that the mineral surveys were quite promising, so we should have no problem making our yearly tribute to the crown for their continued mercy on our lives.

Mercy they call it.



Well, we have two picks so we set to work immediately carving out some temporary shelter until more worthwhile dwellings can be made later.  Luckily the place seems peaceful enough.  The only wildlife there to greet us was a stoat, and it seems more interested in romping through the snow than it does stealing one of our turkeys.

20th Hematite,

The miners are working busily on the shelter.  I had one of them dig down to see if there was some stone near the surface, but he didn't hit anything for several dozen Urist.  It would be nice if the stone were a bit closer, but at least we don't have to worry about an aquifer.



We've got a late start and have to get producing something of value by Fall, so we need all the little shortcuts we can get.

7the Malachite,

The temporary shelter is complete and we've started moving all our supplies out of the cold.  Meanwhile I sent the miners down to do a little exploritory digging for something of value.



I was told a few hours later that they had found mica.  Armok give me strength.

I told them to try harder and sent them back to work.

8th Malachite,

This morning one of the miners brought me a hunk of Sard.



Honestly, I don't even know what Sard is.  I send them back.  Again.

9th Malachite,



Finally, they brought me some metal!  Now to smelt it with the... um...

We lack trees and only have the wood we brought with us.  Either we need to find coal or dig deep.  I know for certain that we can find magma, so I order the miners to start digging again.  We can worry about digging out the Hematite later when we can actually do something with it.

We have so little time until the tribute is due.  We need to press on before we are out of time.  I only wish I'd thought to bring more picks.

11th Malachite,

One of the scrubs suggested that we create mechanisms with some of the stone that's laying around.  Good idea, mechanisms are always in need and will count a great deal toward the tribute if we start now.  I've ordered an area dug out for machine shops.

14th Malachite,



Great, well, we'll have to go around.  We cannot stop until we hit the core!

19th Malachite,

Finally some good news.  Deep in the earth the miners have found a layer of marble with large veins of Sphalerite.  If we find some copper, we can make brass for export.

22nd Malachite,



Always delays.  This time the caverns come with a massive lake. 



Once again, we'll need to divert and go around.

27th Malachite,



Thank Armok, we found silver!  Finally something with a bit of value to it.  If we can get those furnaces up soon, we can toss out a load of silver weapons and armor to really wow the mountainhome.

2nd Galena,



Finally, we found the first evidence of the Magma sea, Semi-molten rock.  I had the miners immediately begin some exploritory digging to find easy access to the sea.

10th Galena,



The miners have found stone that is only warm on the bottom, soon we can have access to the magma sea.  With a scant 3 weeks to fall, it'll be a race to fulfill the tribute at this rate.  A small amount of native silver was found near the area they are mining out for magma furnaces, so we should be able to expeditiously turn that into some wealth.

12th Galena,



We breached into the sea today, while the miners finish clearing out the rest of the are to become the magma furnace room, we'll start immediately on smelting ore for a quick turn-over.



We also spied a little adamantine in the lava.  If push comes to shove, we may be able to harvest some for the tribute.

19th Galena,

It's becoming increasingly clear that we are unlikely to make the tribute without a drastic measure. Even with all the gears we have created, the tally is falling far short of what we need to make tribute.  We are all trying so very hard, but with only seven of us, our ability to work is limited.  I have not told the others, but the price of failure is execution.

Our only hope to avoid the gallows is to make something from adamantine to sell.  I hate to waste such a precious commodity, but otherwise there is no hope.  I have ordered the miners to search for adamantine ore above the sea.

27th Galena,



The miners have found reachable adamantine just above the sea and are mining it greedily.  Hopefully we will be able to craft something with it before the caravan arrives.

10th Limestone,



The liaison has arrived with the traders.  We are not even close to being ready for them.  Now it is a scramble to make enough of value before they leave.  The silver axes are already building up, but I fear they will take more time than we have to build up to where we need them to be.

26th Limestone,



There are so few of us.  We can barely find the time to move what we've made onto the trade depot.  We have enough goods to make tribute, but if we cannot get them to the depot in time, it will not matter.  I have made everyone haulers, Armok grant us speed.

8th Sandstone,



We are doomed.  The traders have announced they will leave soon and our broker decided to pick this moment to take a nap.  In the end it wasn't lack of wealth, lack of hands to do work, or even the lack of goods at the depot.  In the end, our fate was sealed because the only dwarf who knew what anything was worth decided he needed a nap.

I hope that when we're in hell, Goden UlingSodel, that we share a room so I can keep you awake for eternity with my snoring.  We'll see how much you like napping then.  I have ordered the dwarves to scatter from this site, change there names, and forget forever that they ever heard the name SwallowPillar.  We are finished here.



Writ of King Dastot Morulrash as posted throughout the kingdom:

By royal Decree, I hereby sentence the settlers of Swallowpillar to death for treachery against the crown, ignoring a royal mandate, and high treason.  They are to be hunted down by the armies of The Machine of Brushing and hung from the neck until dead.  From this day forth none shall be allowed within 1,000 Urist of SwallowPillar on pain of death.

Before Abandon: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=10235

After Abandon: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=10236

[Salmeuk]

Now I am confused. Can you further define the "You Only Build Once" rule? Does that mean we can only start one fortress but play as many adventurers as we wish? How exactly do you define 'build'?

[Pencil_Art]

That 'tribute' rule means things just got a lot harder.

[ptb_ptb]

Now I am confused. Can you further define the "You Only Build Once" rule?

I think your questions are pretty much covered by the 'Explanatory details' section. Everything that is not forbidden in there is permissible.

Does that mean we can only start one fortress but play as many adventurers as we wish?

You can build more than one fortress. What you can't do it reclaim or unretire a player fortress or reclaim or unretire a world-gen fortress that a player has built in.

How exactly do you define 'build'?

Loosely.

The long and the short of it is that I'm using this thread to produce test cases for bug 8362. The law is there to protect players from the multiple crashes that occur sometime after unretiring a player fortress.

I hope that makes things clear.

That 'tribute' rule means things just got a lot harder.

It sure did. I will forgo further comment until whenever I take a turn (which is not yet).

[Tacomagic]

That 'tribute' rule means things just got a lot harder.

It's rather doable... provided you actually get immigrents.  For whatever reason I never got a single immigrant wave; it might have had something to do with starting in Summer, I'm not sure, didn't even get any messages saying that there were no migrants that season.  Checked my d_init, and it's fine, so it was just weird.  Made things prohibitively hard with just seven dwarves and only 1 1/2 seasons to put together the tribute.  Had I either gotten immigrants or started in Spring, it wouldn't have been a problem.  C'est la vie.

I had plenty of wealth to get the first tribute actually paid with enough left over to actually do some trading, just didn't have enough hauling labor to get it all to the depot in a timely manner.

It didn't help that the only dwarf with appraisal skill decided to take a nap right as my haulers finally started getting enough goods to the depot.

It might be worthwhile to pro-rate the first year's tribute based on when the player starts.  Start in limestone and add 1k to the tribute value for every month before limestone that a player starts, maxing out at 10k if they start in the beginning of winter or before.  That should account for the different starting times.  From there, 10k is added to that value each year.  That would make the first year less punishing for those who don't get a full year to make tribute.

The other thing I didn't do was build trap weapons.  If I'd done that, getting the tribute together would have been a cake-walk.  A handful of silver spiked balls would have paid the whole thing off without a sweat.  Since I don't normally use trap weapons as a trade good, I didn't even think of using them until after my turn was already over.  Woops.

[Tacomagic]

Also of note: Beyond a certain piont in the game you lose the ability to make offerings to trade caravans.  In leiu of being able to do that, you can instead make a lopsided trade for a useless craft item.

[ptb_ptb]

I'm going to take my hero adventurer out for a spin again. And I'm making my rule at the start of my turn, instead of the end.

RULE 5: A player who ends this Age of Roc and Desert Titan by killing both the Desert Titan and the Roc shall be granted exemption from Rule 4

That should stir things up.

[Tacomagic]

I'm going to take my hero adventurer out for a spin again. And I'm making my rule at the start of my turn, instead of the end.

RULE 5: A player who ends this Age of Roc and Desert Titan by killing both the Desert Titan and the/a Roc shall be granted exemption from Rule 4

That should stir things up.

Does that have to be accomplished in the same turn with the same character, or does it only need to be the same player across any number of turns?

[ptb_ptb]

Does that have to be accomplished in the same turn with the same character, or does it only need to be the same player across any number of turns?

It doesn't say, so any number of turns as long as it's the same player. You could sabotage it by killing one of the two then deliberately not targetting the other.

[Tacomagic]

Does that have to be accomplished in the same turn with the same character, or does it only need to be the same player across any number of turns?

It doesn't say, so any number of turns as long as it's the same player. You could sabotage it by killing one of the two then deliberately not targetting the other.

Bwehehe!

[ptb_ptb]

Solon Rimearths the Cold Pleats / Solon Tiristber Nekikudist from Lashedurdim

51 Sandstone 26th

I returned from the kobold camp to receive my honor name. Now known as Solon Rimearths the Cold Pleats it is time to set out again. It seems like only yesterday I first set out, starting from this very same hall of statues.



The statues haven't changed, but I have. My travels and training have left me stronger, faster, and tougher.



I must not let myself become prideful, though. I know that there are challenges out there that outpower me as a dog outpowers a flea. So, like a flea, I must be careful not to be seen - to take what I will silently lest I be crushed. Before I leave I must lighten my load in order to be a swift as I can. Perhaps I will come back for something here someday, perhaps someone else will find a worthy use for them.



I also refresh my memory on rumours of monsters and villains. Olin, an axedwarf, chooses to follow me on my travels.

I come across a strange tower a day's walk or so to the west. Suddenly, undead! (X_X)

Save file: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=10239

[ptb_ptb]

I'm a cheating cheater. I forgot to claim a site when I played an adventurer in turn 5.

[Tacomagic]

Downloading now.  If you liked my last rule, you'll love my next rule.  Actually, it's the start of a more complex, multi-part rule so it'll take a few turns to flesh it out.

[Pencil_Art]

I didn't like your last rule. Does that mean that I will like this even less?

[Tacomagic]

I didn't like your last rule. Does that mean that I will like this even less?

Yes.  Probably.

EDIT:
Woops, forgot you can only have one retired character per site.  I'm ending my turn now without doing anything or making a rule because I just accidentally deleted ptb_ptb's character when I retired at the same location.

Guess you're all spared from my crazy rules for one more day.