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Author Topic: The 1 percent per day superpower  (Read 23885 times)

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Re: The 1 percent per day superpower
« Reply #60 on: December 10, 2014, 03:54:29 pm »

Hey, Lord of Buckets, what would happen in cases like this, where odds increase above the possible value (like having more than a 100% chance of not dying)? Does it revert to 100% or what?

There are several ways that could possibly be resolved. Ignoring meaningless results is one option. Applying probability percentages such that neither zero nor 100 are ever reached is another. Like somebody else suggested, A thing with a 90% chance modified by 1% can result in a 91% chance, a 90.9% chance or 90.1% depending on how you apply the 1%. Or I suppose you could eliminate the ability to modify probabilities and intangibles from the original premise.

But I hadn't really intended this thread to be an exercise in math or rules lawyering. Presumably the hypothetical genie granting a power like we're discussing would have  a logically consistent system in place. And presumably he would describe the power in plain english rather than handing you a 200 page book with all the legalisms and math behind it. And presumably if you attempted an invalid use of the power or expected something contrary to the way it worked, it would nevertheless continue to work or not work according to the actual rules rather than the plain-english phrasing of them regardless of whether you knew why. Jafar at the end of the Aladdin comes to mind. There were rules. He didn't know them because the djinn never told him. He made an invalid wish, and it just didn't happen.


Decrease 1% of the world's cash into my pocket.
Increase the value of 1/0 by 1%.

Can I just make up an arbitrary scale to get the results I want?

But if people are more interested in using incorrect grammar to deliberately attempt things that were specified as not an option, mathematically nonsensical applications and generally looking for loopholes in the phrasing of the OP, *shrug* at least they're enjoying themselves, so successful thread, right?

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Re: The 1 percent per day superpower
« Reply #61 on: December 10, 2014, 04:09:21 pm »

I saw that episode of Doctor Who.
And Sam and Max
Haven't watched/played those, although I suspect it was one of episodes of Darkwing Duck with Bushroot(?) as villain that planted this idea in my head a couple of decades ago. Nature's revenge seems to be a popular theme/fear.
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Re: The 1 percent per day superpower
« Reply #62 on: December 10, 2014, 04:12:47 pm »

Well, the best way to utilize this would be to increase my intelligence for a few months or years, then use that knowledge to take over the world.

A lot of my hypothetical uses for superpowers involve world conquest.
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Re: The 1 percent per day superpower
« Reply #63 on: December 10, 2014, 04:17:14 pm »

"Reduce the number of alive human traffickers by 1%"
Suddenly hundreds of people around the world just drop dead and their respective organisations start to undergo collapse.
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Re: The 1 percent per day superpower
« Reply #64 on: December 10, 2014, 04:20:48 pm »

Decrease the probability of my death by 1%.

Starting at a 100% probability that I will die, I have to survive 100 odd days before I am now unconditionally immortal. Well, not quite; death never winds up as a non-0 probability, but the longer you leave the power on the smaller and smaller the probability gets.
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Re: The 1 percent per day superpower
« Reply #65 on: December 10, 2014, 04:29:24 pm »

Increase pi by one percent. Then watch reality burn.

But as I said before: Targeted assasinations, people! "Decrease number of carbon atoms in the body of X by one percent." The guy will drop dead instantly.
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Re: The 1 percent per day superpower
« Reply #66 on: December 10, 2014, 04:30:29 pm »

Kind of like a death note.

I want a Death Note. Not saying I have a list, but... yea I have a list.
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Re: The 1 percent per day superpower
« Reply #67 on: December 10, 2014, 04:34:12 pm »

Decrease the probability of my death by 1%.

Starting at a 100% probability that I will die, I have to survive 100 odd days before I am now unconditionally immortal. Well, not quite; death never winds up as a non-0 probability, but the longer you leave the power on the smaller and smaller the probability gets.
I would go with the probability of me dying within the next 50 years.
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Re: The 1 percent per day superpower
« Reply #68 on: December 10, 2014, 04:35:55 pm »

I would increase the fuel efficiency of NASA's liquid rocket engines every day for a little while at least. On the other hand they may will waste a bunch of time trying to figure out why, and telling them would put me on the wrong radars (if they don't just think I'm crazy.)
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Re: The 1 percent per day superpower
« Reply #69 on: December 10, 2014, 04:37:37 pm »

Kind of like a death note.

I want a Death Note. Not saying I have a list, but... yea I have a list.

Would be cool except for the inevitable "absolute power corrupts absolutely".
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Re: The 1 percent per day superpower
« Reply #70 on: December 10, 2014, 04:39:21 pm »

Increase pi by one percent. Then watch reality burn.
Even better: increase e by one percent!

I'm not sure if there are even any physics which utilize a different e.
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Re: The 1 percent per day superpower
« Reply #71 on: December 10, 2014, 04:42:34 pm »

Well if it works with probabilities, could we not pull an 'Infinite Improbability Drive' stunt and make it more probable that somebody will discover/create a certain thing?
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Re: The 1 percent per day superpower
« Reply #72 on: December 10, 2014, 04:43:25 pm »

Kind of like a death note.

I want a Death Note. Not saying I have a list, but... yea I have a list.

Would be cool except for the inevitable "absolute power corrupts absolutely".
Spend a few months on increasing your morality, duh. Wait, the best choice would be to decrease the amount of time it takes for you to be able to reuse the 1%/Day power. Eventually, you will be nigh-omnipotent.
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Re: The 1 percent per day superpower
« Reply #73 on: December 10, 2014, 04:43:49 pm »

Well if it works with probabilities, could we not pull an 'Infinite Improbability Drive' stunt and make it more probable that somebody will discover/create a certain thing?
Well, the rules cover that one - if the chance for that is zero in the beginning, it stays zero after multiplication with 1.01.
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Re: The 1 percent per day superpower
« Reply #74 on: December 10, 2014, 04:44:55 pm »

Well if it works with probabilities, could we not pull an 'Infinite Improbability Drive' stunt and make it more probable that somebody will discover/create a certain thing?
Well, the rules cover that one - if the chance for that is zero in the beginning, it stays zero after multiplication with 1.01.
So we can't do anything that's already impossible, got it.
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