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Pyrphoros

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Dwarframpage
« on: December 10, 2014, 10:49:58 am »

Hey, i have a little problem with dwarfs going rampage and i have no idea why they should do this.
I reloaded the game several times because i want to learn what is going on but i have no clue.

This is what happens: (The first part might not actually have something to do with my problem)
I had a weremonitorattack, noob like i am, i sended out my military to save my lifestock. One dwarf got killed and a few wounded. I walled in the hospital to contain eventual spread of the weredesease and are about to carve fortifications in the walls.
This is there my savepoint starts:
One of the wounded becomes a weremonitor and kills the offer wounded in my hospital, the fortificationcarving is not ready and my military to stupid to equip so the weremonitor survives and transforms back, nothing strange so far.
But even after the weremonitor transforms back some civilians are getting scared and drop thier work.

And now the strange stuff:
Everytime some of my children start to fight with each offer. Not just brawling, they try to kill each offer. Then a dwarf starts to kill the children and after this total mayhem occurs and random dwarfs start to attack and kill each offer.
The kills are not considered murders in the justice tap, i have full reports on the fights so it must be something internal starting the fights.
Everytime i reload different dwarfs starts to run amok.
All dwarfs have highest or secound highest happines just before stuff becomes violent.
No dwarf becomes a weremonitor, i would notice the change in name and icon.
I can not tell my military to attack any of the rampaging dwarfs.


I use the lazis newb modpackage and dwarf therapist.

i hope somebody can help me a tell what can cause my fortress to tare itselfe apart,
Lukas.
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Dwarfeon

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Re: Dwarframpage
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2014, 10:58:20 am »

Sounds like lots of fun.If i wasnt so nub at this game, id say you should try to kill the weremonitor. I am unsure wether or not dwarves can "suspect" someone to be a weremonitor without them being one and attack them on those grounds, as the mighty one programmer seems to have forseen everything.
Check if the dwarves that tantrum are related in any way to the dead ones. That might be causing the random rampages.
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karhell

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Re: Dwarframpage
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2014, 11:09:39 am »

From your description it looks like a loyalty cascade. Not sure exactly what caused it, though.
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Pyrphoros

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Re: Dwarframpage
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2014, 11:23:26 am »

loyalty cascade seams a resonable explanation, apart that it is not like two fractions immidiatly declaring war but dwarfs are starting to run amok one after another and are not just attacking specific targets but more like the next guy they see.

And no, its not lots of fun   :-[
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smeeprocket

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Re: Dwarframpage
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2014, 11:33:32 am »

maybe they got a hit in on the weredwarf after he shifted back and it counted as attacking a civilian.
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Re: Dwarframpage
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2014, 11:43:59 am »

I sended all my dwarfs to a burrow outside the fortress to fight the loyalty cascade out, but it seems like nothing happens. Guess smeeprocket is right, one of my crossbowdwarf is in one fraction and the weremonitor in a different, because he shot at the weremonitar the war between the fraction stated. I now what the weremonitor must be in a fraction because haulers got scared by him, i thought it was because of the weremonitor thing but it was because of the loyalty cascade.

By the way, i solved the problem by getting everyone out of the weremonitors range of influence then he transformed and then by releasing the weremonitor and let him have a tragical acident under a drawbridge. Minute of memory for Loram Something, my debarg hunter and crossbowdwarf, rest in slush.

Thanks for the help  :)
« Last Edit: December 10, 2014, 01:12:43 pm by Pyrphoros »
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Re: Dwarframpage
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2014, 04:57:30 pm »


And no, its not lots of fun   :-[
He mean Fun, fun with a capital F. You'll have a lot of it in this game...