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[Tolis Kadestozi]

Wondering this has been done before, seeing as the new release has actual tree structures.  I'm trying something that might be considered heresy to dwarves but ill do it anyway.  I've started in 40.19, an dwarven tree fort/town.  Simply named Treetown.  The dwarves there are undoubtedly eccentric to say the least.  Mostly wanted to know if anyone would be interested in seeing how this goes.  I've already started and I seem to be making progress.  Your thoughts?

[Larix]

Since i'm fiddling with those since the bigger trees have come in, i'm quite interested. Have you already installed bedrooms, dining rooms etc. in your trees? How do you make the canopy "inside"?

I'm using mostly bridges for structural work (including roofs), since those don't delete trees.

[utunnels]

I wonder if trunks work like a wall?

[§k]

It might be difficult to build on actual trees.

There can be "dwarven tree" though. I once built a "copper tree" that consists of staircase and floor.

[Tolis Kadestozi]

Well, I haven't done much as i have only just got to my first summer.  Mostly got a working workshop, and a dormitory.  Working on the main/first dining hall and food storage.  I suppose I might try using the canopy but I am not too adept at dwarf mode,  adventure mode tends to be my thing.  Mostly have built some log structures around a peach tree and are working from there.

I would post a picture but I am unsure how to post it here.  Help with that would be appreciated.

P.S. Trunks do work as a wall. just a special kind

[utunnels]

Well you can build "among" trees.
I tried in 40.13, though, it didn't go well.
Sometimes, a dorf would walk on branches, and fell.

So I guess the best outcome is you build your rooms among trees, but do remember to seal them.

[Max™]

Go upload the picture to imgur or your choice of site, grab the image url, then place it in these tags:
[img][ / img] <- remove the spaces
You can also nest it in these tags so it doesn't break the page if it is a large image:
[spoiler][ / spoiler] <- again, remove the spaces

[Tolis Kadestozi]

I've sealed what few rooms I have built.  Its not perfect as I am not able to build into trees, unless i try that bridge method but i will attempt to make a go at it.  Besides my expedition leader is dwarf that loves nature.  I wonder if the elves will not like me to use tree logs to make homes among the trees...

And I will go try imgur, thanks.

[Tolis Kadestozi]

And here is a picture showing my progress so far...

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[Max™]

Not sure what your feelings on dfhack are, but even if you don't want to feel like you're cheating or anything, you should look into it if just for one thing: the current version has something called stonesense working, which means you can get a shot of your progress like this:

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...errr, pay no attention to the magma everywhere, that's unrelated, for the record though, tree trunks won't burn, but the foliage will happily catch fire and spread it to the whole map.

[Tolis Kadestozi]

Not gonna ask about the magma , but I have always been a little iffy about utility's and are no doubt useful.  Just kinda gotten used to playing dwarf fortress without any.  I might think about it though.

[Larix]

If you go with bridges, it may look like this:

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3 z-levels above ground, with more traffic on the level above, some traffic on the level below, and some large bridges somewhere about 10 z-levels above (as roofs, so i could make proper rooms). Fooling around with invaders off, so this totally doesn't care about defence.

All the way to the left the access staircase from groundlevel, connecting catwalks stretching past one residential tree in the northwest, the other residence is in the southeast (the main dining "hall" is directly above). The brown =s are a small farm on constructed (wooden) floor. To the far east, the office of the expedition leader.

The fort has a total of 62 beards; most workshops are on open floor, and there are still a few underground constructions (food storage, well, largely unused dormitory). I still haven't found a tree to put the depot in.

Bridges can be built in and above trees without hurting the tree. "Twigs" remain completely un-pathable, bridges don't change that; you need "open space" adjacent to "branches"; build your bridge so that it touches the branches cardinally and covers the open space, that allows your dwarfs to step off the tree (including diagonally). To provide a roof, bridges must be built over open space; if there's any tree feature overlapping the planned bridge, the bridge can be built, but the tiles underneath will still count as "outside". You can "bridge-hop": build a bridge far out into the open, then start a new bridge from the outmost tile. If any part of that new bridge is properly supported (adjacent to branches or trunk) it will not cave in and permits passage; this way, you can cover 20-tile gaps between trees just using a pair of bridges (instead of twenty floor tiles, built sequentially; and you'd need a place to attach floor without making the tree disappear, since floor, other than bridges, cannot co-exist with tree features).

PS: young trees will still grow, and may grow in ways that break bridge pathing. In one fort, i wondered a lot why a bunch of dwarfs got "slept without a proper room" unhappiness while they had very nice rooms - it turned out those had become inaccessible because twigs had grown over some crucial bridge tiles, blocking passage.

[Tolis Kadestozi]

Alright, thanks for the advice.  I might try it during my attempt, though i have invaders turned on.  So ill be thinking of defense strategy when i do this.   And I might not get far.  (got finals this week)

[Max™]

Well, if it would help, when you get it set up somewhat and want to see how it looks, toss a save up on dffd and I could load it up and snap a couple pictures for ya. It's a shame stonesense is tied into dfhack in some ways, but it really is cool as hell having the different perspective available.

[omega_dwarf]

I think this is an interesting idea...could you mod the game to produce bloody enormous trees? It seems like there must be a way, since Ginkgo definitely have different growth characteristics than, say, a walnut.

Gl;hf. And this doesn't mean you're allowed to associate with elves XD. It is your mandate to build a magma chamber in the trees!