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Dwarves all gone, playing as humans
« on: November 24, 2014, 05:37:45 am »

In my current world, all see no sign of dwarven civilisation and my embark party is composed of humans. Is this normal?
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Re: Dwarves all gone, playing as humans
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2014, 06:09:20 am »

No.
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Re: Dwarves all gone, playing as humans
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2014, 06:59:47 am »

Would you mind uploading the save? You should have still gotten seven Dwarves. Even if they're all dead, in that case you would basically be making your own civ.
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Re: Dwarves all gone, playing as humans
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2014, 07:01:54 am »

I won't be able to upload for a while, but they look like humans to me, and in the description it says, "A medium-sized creature prone to great ambition," instead of the normal Dwarf text.
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Re: Dwarves all gone, playing as humans
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2014, 01:10:33 pm »

At least they're not elves.
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Re: Dwarves all gone, playing as humans
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2014, 01:16:43 pm »

We won't be able to tell what's going on until you upload that save. Preferably you should do it by the dffd website.

If you're worried about upload bandwidth the file should only be around 15MB in size. And that's not even compressed.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2014, 01:28:36 pm by Codyo »
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Re: Dwarves all gone, playing as humans
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2014, 06:24:58 pm »

I'm guessing you probably have duplicate raws. What that means is that somewhere in your objects folder there's something that has the same name as something else. For some reason this makes the game flip out and do crazy things like make the playable civs for adventurer mode skunk men, skunks, and frog men then makes the material of the ground constantly switch from every available material in a way that looks like a rainbow. The results could also be more plain like just replacing dwarves with humans, humans with elves, elves with goblins, goblins with kobolds, and kobolds with trolls. A way to tell for sure is to go into adventurer mode and check what creatures are playable then play one of each seeing what site type you spawn in.
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Re: Dwarves all gone, playing as humans
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2014, 03:46:26 am »

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Re: Dwarves all gone, playing as humans
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2014, 06:50:15 pm »

I'm guessing you probably have duplicate raws. What that means is that somewhere in your objects folder there's something that has the same name as something else. For some reason this makes the game flip out and do crazy things like make the playable civs for adventurer mode skunk men, skunks, and frog men then makes the material of the ground constantly switch from every available material in a way that looks like a rainbow. The results could also be more plain like just replacing dwarves with humans, humans with elves, elves with goblins, goblins with kobolds, and kobolds with trolls. A way to tell for sure is to go into adventurer mode and check what creatures are playable then play one of each seeing what site type you spawn in.

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Re: Dwarves all gone, playing as humans
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2014, 07:39:16 pm »

I'm guessing you probably have duplicate raws. What that means is that somewhere in your objects folder there's something that has the same name as something else. For some reason this makes the game flip out and do crazy things like make the playable civs for adventurer mode skunk men, skunks, and frog men then makes the material of the ground constantly switch from every available material in a way that looks like a rainbow. The results could also be more plain like just replacing dwarves with humans, humans with elves, elves with goblins, goblins with kobolds, and kobolds with trolls. A way to tell for sure is to go into adventurer mode and check what creatures are playable then play one of each seeing what site type you spawn in.

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Re: Dwarves all gone, playing as humans
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2014, 12:08:02 pm »

the way it messes the stone around... not fun. You could be mining steam instead of stone
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Re: Dwarves all gone, playing as humans
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2014, 07:07:20 am »

Don't mean to be a bad guy and bump a dead thread, but has anyone figured out whether it's a raws problem or it can be activated in the game itself?
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Re: Dwarves all gone, playing as humans
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2014, 12:56:10 pm »

some simple raw editing can make humans a playable race in fortress mode, though it plays somewhat different - can't make steel for example, only dorfs can do that
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Re: Dwarves all gone, playing as humans
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2014, 05:11:36 pm »

Just examined it, and it's a duplicate creature definition - at the beginning of creature_other.txt, there are two creatures named NOTHING.

Next time, check your errorlog.txt first.
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Re: Dwarves all gone, playing as humans
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2014, 08:05:35 am »

At least they're not elves.
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