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[Scripten]

Yeah, I think my vote's going to stay where it is.

I can appreciate a good scum trap, but pretending to daykill someone, and then asking for reads and crap afterwards?

I just...

TolyK did a better job explaining the "change in perception" bit than I could.

Actually, fake dayvigs are a pretty common town tactic. If they hit scum, they can effectively root them out if the town players focus on the reactions and not the fact that a reaction test took place.

It appears that this town does not want to focus on any analysis and instead is more happy to kneejerk lynch. Congrats guys. hopefully you all look at my posts after I flip and use them to scumhunt actual scum instead of getting hung up on me.

[Scripten]

Scripten, surely you were expecting this kind of backlash from your actions? You're not a jester, are you?

I expected an amount of backlash, though I was hoping that some players would look at the analysis as well and understand what was accomplished. Town working together to find scum are a lot more effective than town lynching "stupid" town players.

Can you give an example of a reaction test that doesn't revolve around a temporary state of misinformation.

Sure I can.

...okay? Could you please?

[Persus13]

Scripten, surely you were expecting this kind of backlash from your actions? You're not a jester, are you?

I expected an amount of backlash, though I was hoping that some players would look at the analysis as well and understand what was accomplished. Town working together to find scum are a lot more effective than town lynching "stupid" town players.

Can you give an example of a reaction test that doesn't revolve around a temporary state of misinformation.

Sure I can.

...okay? Could you please?

He just did.

[Persus13]

Currently I'm hesistant to vote Scripten because I very busy and haven't had time to read through Scripten's posts and his interaction prior to "vigging Caz". Since you guys probably want mor info from me than my previous post.

[Scripten]

Also, since today is the New Year and I will be out with friends, here are my list of reads:

Scummiest
Caz
Vivalas
Comrade Shamrock
TolyK
flabort
----------------------------------- Line of lynchability
Deathsword
Persus13
Tiruin
Silthuri
TheDarkStar
Deus Asmoth
mastahcheese
Towniest

PS: Apologies for the massive strings of posts. The day is going by quickly and I will not be able to play come tonight.

Persus13: You mean the post he made? I suppose you could say so about any vote/post, I guess?

[flabort]

Can you give an example of a reaction test that doesn't revolve around a temporary state of misinformation.

Sure I can.

...okay? Could you please?

Your reaction indicates disbelief and a preconceived notion about what can and cannot make up a reaction test.

Persus13: You mean the post he made? I suppose you could say so about any vote/post, I guess?

Furthermore it indicates that you think I'm being a jerk.
OK, I'm being a jerk, I admit it.

Actually, fake dayvigs are a pretty common town tactic.

I cannot find any proof of this. Please link me to one or more archived games where this took place.
I will point out that "lynch all liars" does not just apply to where the setups are known (That was only an example given on the mafiascum wiki, not the definition), but really stands for "town has no reason to lie". If someone has a reason to lie, then it stands that they are not town. If you're lying for no reason, then you look like someone who has a reason to lie, and look like someone who is not town and waste the town's time. So I claim that the "lynch all liars" policy still applies.

The only gambits I can think of that you'd be trying to pull are the Slayer's Gambit, which is RiA, and... well, I can't find any documentation anywhere that indicates that claiming dayvig has any history.

[Deus Asmoth]

The idea that town has no reason to lie seems a bit simplistic to me. If it were true, scum could just ask people what their roles were and they'd get told since the town wouldn't be able to lie.

[Teneb]

The idea that town has no reason to lie seems a bit simplistic to me. If it were true, scum could just ask people what their roles were and they'd get told since the town wouldn't be able to lie.

You can just refuse. If you ask me "What is your role?" and I respond "I'm not going to answer that." am I lying? No.

[Scripten]

I cannot find any proof of this. Please link me to one or more archived games where this took place.
I will point out that "lynch all liars" does not just apply to where the setups are known (That was only an example given on the mafiascum wiki, not the definition), but really stands for "town has no reason to lie". If someone has a reason to lie, then it stands that they are not town. If you're lying for no reason, then you look like someone who has a reason to lie, and look like someone who is not town and waste the town's time. So I claim that the "lynch all liars" policy still applies.

The only gambits I can think of that you'd be trying to pull are the Slayer's Gambit, which is RiA, and... well, I can't find any documentation anywhere that indicates that claiming dayvig has any history.

On the mafiascum forums, the fake dayvig test was used so much that it's become useless because nobody reacts to it. However, I've found a few examples to share with the class:

Example 1
Example 2 (This an actual dayvig using the fake dayvig)
Example 3
Example 4 (This was a dayvig-heavy setup, but the first dayvig was fake)
Example 5 (This was a little silly, since it was an open setup and people knew what roles there were, tho)
Example 6 (This fake dayvig caught scum, despite the MS.net meta surrounding the test)
Example 7
Example 8
Example 9 (Two in a row here. Didn't work, but they tried)
Example 10

I can provide more examples, of course. Suffice to say that it's not rare. You'll notice that a majority of these tests are pulled off by players who flipped town, as well. Since this is a different site, the reaction test was more useful, garnering actual reactions and giving me useful information that I've compiled. It's up to you to actually look at it and make judgement calls fro man objective standpoint.

Deathsword: Do you seriously play mafia in a fashion that is that deterministic? I'll have to remember this for when I flip scum.

[Teneb]

Deathsword: Do you seriously play mafia in a fashion that is that deterministic? I'll have to remember this for when I flip scum.

I'm sorry, but how is that deterministic? I was just explaining to Deus Asmoth the problem in their reasoning.

[Scripten]

Deathsword: Do you seriously play mafia in a fashion that is that deterministic? I'll have to remember this for when I flip scum.

I'm sorry, but how is that deterministic? I was just explaining to Deus Asmoth the problem in their reasoning.

I'm not sure that using a checkbox-y flowchart is anything more than deterministic. Maybe I'm wrong.

[4maskwolf]

Unfortunate Accident Voting:
mastahcheese(0):
TheDarkStar(0):
Scripten(5): mastahcheese, Caz, Deathsword, flabort, TolyK
Caz(1): Scripten
Deathsword(0):
Persus13(0):
Vivalas(1): Deus Asmoth
Tiruin(0):
Silthuri(0):
flabort(1): Persus13
TolyK(2): TheDarkStar, Vivalas
Comrade Shamrock(0):
Deus Asmoth(0):
No Lynch(0):
Not Voting: Tiruin, Silthuri, Comrade Shamrock

Lookout Voting:
mastahcheese(4): TheDarkStar, Scripten, flabort, Deus Asmoth
TheDarkStar(0):
Scripten(0):
Caz(2): Caz, Comrade Shamrock
Deathsword(0):
Persus13(1): Persus13
Vivalas(0):
Tiruin(0):
Silthuri(0):
flabort(0):
TolyK(0):
Comrade Shamrock(0):
Deus Asmoth(0):
Not Voting: mastahcheese, Deathsword, Vivalas, Tiruin, Silthuri, TolyK

Current Lynch Target: Scripten
Current Lookout Target: mastahcheese

Both votecounts should be correct, although they may not be.  Please inform me of any errors or miscalculations.

Day will end on January 1st at 9 am PST, or approximately 16 hours from now.

An important note for those of you with day actions: My internet will be off, as it always is, from 9:00 pm to 7:00 am.  If you wish for your action to be processed before two hours from day end, the cutoff is 8:30 my time to give me time to process them.  That's 11:30 forum time.

[Caz]

An important note for those of you with day actions: My internet will be off, as it always is, from 9:00 pm to 7:00 am.  If you wish for your action to be processed before two hours from day end, the cutoff is 8:30 my time to give me time to process them.  That's 11:30 forum time.

Ooh, so I could actually be killed? How exciting.

To be honest I don't have any good reads for day 1. I hate day 1. It's all rambling and uselessness and you usually lynch a townie at the end. Also it's Hogmanay and I'm way too hungover/drunk (TIL you can be both) to do the scumhunting thing. Hopefully it all turns out in the end. Scripten is still nuts though.

[Comrade Shamrock]

Scripten:

Also why Vivalas? You say he's scummier but you don't say how. Deathsword has a post on why, so what are your reasons?

I already said, but because of him trying to extend RVS, which is a scum-sided action, and due to the way he's playing. It feels scummier than the other players. I'm also giving you a little bit of a benefit of the doubt due to experience with your town playstyle, though this will ebb quickly as the game goes on.

Where exactly have you stated your reasoning on Vivalas? I looked, I couldn't find it perhaps you could point it out. You may not be voting him currently but he's still your no. 2 pick.

Spoiler: Your posts before above quote (click to show/hide)

Scripten, you say you want to see someone other than TolyK get lynched, so is it a good idea for you to recommend voting for him just to avoid a no-lynch, especially since there are seven other votes that weren't on TolyK or Vivalas at that point? What made you pick Vivalas over Caz and Comrade, your other two scum reads?

Voting to avoid a no lynch is a good idea, though it is not as important in this setup as it is in the beginners' games. If I really wanted to ensure a no lynch, I'd vote for TolyK, but I'm currently town reading him to a moderate extent.

Comrade isn't as scummy and Caz has no votes on him right now. My vote would have pretty much just been a vanity vote rather than one made to accomplish something.

Dues Asmoth For each pair, who would you rather see lynched?
Shamrock       Scripten
Mastahcheese      TheDarkStar
Vivalas        Flabort
Silthuri        Tiruin
TolyK        Caz

Flabort, I am going to be looking VERY carefully at these pairings when people start flipping.

Why did you choose the pairings you did, and why are you limiting answers to be within these pairs?

Sorry about how messy this post is. I'm trying to get it in early to give time for discussion.

Who would you want to be lookout right now? What are your feelings about the lookout mechanic and who should become lookout.

I feel like it's a neat mechanic. It will become more useful later in the game, as usual. I wouldn't mind having it, since my powers are entirely relegated to the daytime, but I haven't got a problem with seeing my town reads taking it up.

TolyK- Seems particuraly wary of scum tactics. Slight town lean.

...
What.
How.
...
You got that in one post?
...
Mastahcheese seems particularly interested in seeming active and preceptive and all-around scumhunting town.
When really, he's buddying a person who hasn't posted ANYTHING of interest yet other than a thought that isn't even mentioned in his post.
...
So, can you please pick apart my posts and say where you got that? Not much I'm asking for here.

(A bit exaggerated, of course, but that's the butt of my accusation).

This, along with other posts today, makes me want to see someone other than TolyK get lynched. Vivalas, Caz, and Comrade are all scummier, and while newbie-shields are up and running, this is not a newbie game, so I don't feel TOO bad for voting people for being scummy.

Flabort & TheDarkStar: I'm glad you don't want to see a no lynch happen, but I think you should consider that TolyK has dropped towntells more than scumtells, and you're just getting rid of an experienced player because you don't want to kill a newbie on day 1.

Flabort: Also, my power works fine. It's just that it's a little visible. I worry about the night, though, since my power is very town-sided and relegated to the daytime and thus makes me a prime night kill target for scum.

TolyK: Your heated counterattack seems borderline OMGUS. Your motives are questionable. Such a heated defense would seem scummy, for a simple D1 read. Are you scum trying to RIA? Explain how mastacheese is buddying with Caz other than RVS vote.

Deathsword already covered the problems I have with this post. However, I'm wavering between voting Vivalas, Caz, or Comrade Shamrock. Not understanding how terms quite work isn't alignment-indicative, but this seems like an attempt to go after low-hanging fruit. Due to the holiday, it seems like it may be working, as well, since TolyK is likely to be lynched despite being relatively town.

Let's also consider the fact that voting for RVS at the end of Day 1 is incredibly scum-sided. It preserves a part of the game that relies on learning very little about your fellow players other than their personalities and playstyles, which are not particularly alignment-indicative.

In case I do not get my catchup post out before the end of the day...

Unvote Persus13
Vote Vivalas

I would recommend anyone else who is online to vote along with me or to vote TolyK so we avoid no-lynching, though in this sort of game it's less dangerous to go for no-lynch since bastard mechanics can even out the bonus scum would otherwise get via actions or third parties hitting scum.

Lookout Mastahcheese

I have a minor town read on him and barring anything that vastly changes my read having come up yesterday, I'd like to see him as lookout. I do not want to have Caz as the lookout tonight.

Geez, you guys have been busy. I'll be back tomorrow morning with a recap and I'll try to touch on all the questions directed at me. While I get some sleep, though, let us consider the following.

Dayvig: Caz

(Note: Role doesn't indicate that dayvig ends the day, so feel free to discuss. )

Replies in bold:

Yes, who wouldn't want to be watchman (unless they have some strange wincon/role thing)?

Town: Info about nightkills, possibly something to do if you have a useless role.

Also more likely to get attacked by the mafia, and if you have a powerful role, you have to choose whether to use it or waste the Lookout role that night.

Scum: Finding town power roles.

Also can fake results with next to no risk. Even if results are untrue, this is a bastard mod game and thus scum are just little balls of WIFOM waiting to explode.

Third party: Seeing what happens and siding with town or scum based on that.

And welcome to the game, Tiruin!

Comrade Shamrock

Get an AT gun and blow them all to pieces. Not the exact phrasing but I'm sure you can work it out from there. If you're curious as to why I want to live. I want to get to D2, never been in D2 so I hope it's fun.

It's fun enough. Are you town, Comrade, or are you a third party?

Well now you just deserve to be voted due to those atrocious errors. Are you going to take any question I ask seriously Scripten? So far it seems to be just humour.

[Image redacted for fiddling with the spoilers]

Deus Asmoth

What's the reasoning behind this question? Why would it work any better than just asking him if he's scum or not?

It's possible/likely that we have more than just town and scum in this game. Some third parties have unique wincons.

My reasons are mostly selfish, I just wanna live.

Hm.

What's the wincon stated in your role PM, Comrade?

Why so few word associations Scripten?

Because I'm scum and can't think of words to go with town. Congratulation, you are winnar and have caught me.[/sarcasm]

I was talking about the lookout revealing third parties and about setup speccing revealing town PRs. You're conflating the two.

How does setup speccing reveal town PRs, though?

Firstly, I'm not against asking questions. I am just trying to move the discussion away from setup speculation. Alright, so say we're playing the Matrix 6 setup, right? Say you're a tracker and people are trying to break the setup and speculate on what a jailkeeper would do to negate a scum roleblocker's action. If you don't say anything, you might be alright, but you know, the entire time, that this is an impossible situation. Every post you make is motivated by that knowledge and good scum (who also know there is no roleblocker) can pick you out and kill you. Hence, town gains nothing because they can't tell the difference between your knowledge of the lack of a roleblocker and that of actual scum, so it's entirely town-centric confusion alongside additional scum information.

Does that help any?

I don't see it extracting power roles by any means unless someone asks that specifically, which is stupid as hell.

Relevant question.

How do you go about scumhunting? Do you ask everyone if they are scum or do you try to take cues from their play, establish motivations, and thus find their alignments? This sort of setup speculation enhances town-pr hunting more than it does scumhunting. Who do you think benefits from that?

PPE: Scripten How are survivors anti-town? As far as I'm concerned, the fact that they can with with the scum does not conflict the fact that they can win with the town.

Oh, it certainly does. Who do you think a self-aligned survivor will vote for in 5p LyLo? Hell, in 3p LyLo, I imagine scum will have already won. Survivors are not a trustworthy faction in and of themselves. Of course, they may also be town-aligned and thus have the hardest job of all; staying alive AND lynching anti-town players.

Figuring out factions doesn't reveal town PRs, though. It specifically seeks out third-parties.

I was talking about the lookout revealing third parties and about setup speccing revealing town PRs. You're conflating the two.

Why do you say that outing the mechanics of the game is a good thing and the flip around and say it's a bad thing? How does determining which factions we have = outing PRs?

I said third-party mechanics, specifically. That is, serial killers, survivors, and other anti-town players. Those are good to reveal. Revealing town power roles is not good, however. I highly doubt much else will come from setup spec save evidence for scum to use when deciding who to kill.

Right then, from what I gather the red vote in the RVS is puts a little pressure on someone especially the guilty if you manage to hit. But what does the green do? It implies trust. Trust to someone who hasn't said a word yet. The green to me is not the same as the red and as such is pointless in the RVS stage as it doesn't scare anyone.

This is a really good observation and I want everyone to read it again.

Town-related words are things like village, M Night Shamalamalamallamalan, and lynchin's.

What were the word associations supposed to show, Comrade?

Scripten - How do you think that the lookout mechanics of the game will affect it in the best-case scenario? How about the worst?

As Flabort (IIRC) said, this isn't a particularly useful question, but I'll bite. In the best case, we'll either catch scum, out third party mechanics, or otherwise hinder anti-town factions. In the worst case, scum will find our PRs and kill them all.

Meh, they're an interesting way to start a conversation. Those two might know something I don't. Why don't you want us exploring the mechanics of the game?

One of the biggest advantages town currently had is that scum most likely do not know our various roles. Setup spec is just one step off from doing scum's rolefishing for them, since anything you say will be influenced by your role.

Scripten:
Pick a word

Town     Scum

Give a brief explanation of what drew you to it.

Scum.

Scumhunting draws me closer. Kind of like an ICBM.

You get kudos for originality. You made me chuckle a bit.

Actually, the more I think of it, it's much more dangerous to have a scum lookout since they don't need to hide at night.

Assuming we don't have vigs or third-party players. Remember what happened in webadict's last BYOR where the town tried to outguess the mod?

Persus13

Persus: Do you think that scum might want to get lookout duty in an attempt to find any town power roles in the game?

Of course they would. But it is something that, if successful, would cause them to get increased scrutiny from the town, which is pretty much always a good thing.

Do you also believe that it follows that increased scrutiny on town players is a good thing?

Of course your comment changes his answer. Do you expect him to read my post and then not allow your comment to affect his perception of it? Not going after someone for questions that haven't been answered tends to be a standard part of Mafia etiquette. As for what my expected response was, of course I expected a few different responses from Mastahcheese, either angry, or a simple explanation. If he had said something unexpected, or otherwise made some sort of slipup, then I would have something to pursue. Your comment makes it harder for him to do an unexpected outcome.

You're acting as if I've answered the question for him. I specifically did not. I called out the question and pointed out the potential scum-sided motivation in it. Ergo scumhunting.

Had I said something along the lines of "Mastahcheese meant [so-and-so] by what he said", that would have been interfering. As it is, I don't believe my comments stepped over that line. That said, I don't think that this discussion is furthering the game state. I'll keep off the subject from here on out, with my apologies extended.

The difference of viewpoint had more to do with the second set of questions, which were the ones I regarded as more important.

Very well. Can you explain these differences?

No, I do not feel "Do you have any doubts as to your alignment?" is accusatory, because this is a bastard mod. It seems perfectly possible that someone might not know their wincon. It's a long shot, but still possible. If this wasn't true or mastahcheese didn't want people to know that, he could have just clarified.

That seems like quite the long shot, indeed. Your explanation here feels like backpedaling. Do you find that scum are more or less willing to concede points?

The risk of a potential NK is an acceptable risk. Increased scrutiny from the town is something I listed as a benefit, so I don't see why you're trying to imply I would view it as an acceptable risk, unless you're trying to make me fall into a trap or make me look scummy.

I'll come back to this once you've replied to the first question in this post.

So basically you're saying you think I'm scum for voting myself as lookout. Who would you want to be lookout right now?

It's a possibility. At the moment, I'm not 100% sure of anyone's alignment, but I'd certainly like to learn more about yours.

My bad, I'll just go to my corner and stop scumhunting.

Or not.

1. Mastahcheese hasn't answered the questions I've asked. Jumping on a question before it is answered is both rude, and interferes with what he would say. Now that you've attacked me for this post, I have no chance to see Mastahcheese's natural response and get some information from that.

Were you expecting anything in response to those first two questions *other* than being told that they were based on a false premise? I apologize that play seems rude, but unless you were looking to discern Mastahcheese's alignment from him calling out your questions, I don't see my comment affecting a meaningful answer from him in the slightest.

I should have trimmed my quote, however, to remove the second set of questions, as those were not a part of my argument.

2. Where do I say I find hypothetical situations scummy? Did I vote Mastahcheese? I'm mainly looking for clarification from Mastahcheese on a point, and since I saw from that his post that Mastahcheese has different viewpoint on the lookout mechanic, I want to learn more on what his viewpoint actually is. I also wanted to see mastahcheese's reaction to my post, as that would give me more information, which you ruined by butting in before he had a chance to respond, therefore making my post useless.

Can you clarify the differences between your PoV on the lookout versus Mastahcheese's? Because I'm not getting the same vibe from your question as you are putting forth. In fact, I would postulate that you are feigning some amount of offense to deflect my scumhunting here.

If you didn't find hypothetical situations scummy, then why are you explicitly calling out Mastahcheese for presenting situations for both alignments, obviously for the sake of completion, as a basis for his argument? "Do you have any doubts as to your alignment?" has a distinctive accusatory air to it, don't you agree?

Ninja'd: Interesting. What kind of benefit do you get from being lookout, Persus13?

The same as anyone else, extra abilities, and increased scrutiny.

So I take it that you find the increased scrutiny from the town and potential for being NK'd an acceptable risk?

It seems to me that scum would be more happy about taking up the mantle of the lookout to avoid an investigative role revealing them (especially if said player is protected by a doctor) since they don't have the fear of being stabbed in the night to dissuade them.

Do you have any doubts as to your alignment? If not, why are you putting forward theories of yourself being scum?

Why are you assuming you'll be attacked over taking a hiding action? Do you yourself see hiding as the weaker of the lookout options?

This post is absolutely scummy. Putting forth hypothetical situations for the benefit of supporting a logical argument is not scummy and trying to paint it as such very much is.

Unvote Vivalas
Vote Persus13

I do not like those questions. I do not like them, Sam I Am.

Ninja'd: Interesting. What kind of benefit do you get from being lookout, Persus13?

Vote Vivalas

Vivalas: How do you feel about being caught scum this round?

Deathsword: Based on your meta experience so far, who do you think would be the most pro-town choice to send for lookout duty, and who would be the least pro-town choice?

Unless you're suggesting you're some sort of day investigator with your first post which I find unlikely since you're voting Caz.

As to my vague answer. We are in the 1st infantry division explain to me why I would need an Anti-Tank gun in a situation where we are hunting spies.

Why are you intentionally drawing attention to the flavor in your role?

Deus asked me a question, Caz has also commented. Do you want me to ignore them? Also this information is readily available in the OP.

Scripten

Comrade Shamrock:

I know you're trying to avoid a no lynch but it just seems odd that you're suggesting go Tolyk or whoever you choose.

Why? Why should I go with someone else's wagon when I'm the only person here I know for sure to be town?

Why should we go with your choices? Town are usually only sure of our own alignments (Masons are an exception). So Tolyk or whoever you wanted was who you said we should lynch just to avoid a tie. No more compelling argument was put forward. You vote Vivalas with no comment on him (that I can find). You say he's scummier than me when Deus questions your vote. But you say you want Caz lynched. But you won't vote Caz at this point or at least make a case because he doesn't have enough votes. You could have left a vote on Vivalas if you so wished and tried to convince others to vote Caz.

Umm.... could you explain the below.

Also, your checkbox usage of scumtells is absolutely suboptimal town play.

Flabort & TheDarkStar: I'm glad you don't want to see a no lynch happen, but I think you should consider that TolyK has dropped towntells more than scumtells, and you're just getting rid of an experienced player because you don't want to kill a newbie on day 1.

Sorry but it seems similar. So you're counting scumtells and towntells and comparing numbers but if someone views lying as a big scumtell it's a problem.

I can provide more examples, of course. Suffice to say that it's not rare. You'll notice that a majority of these tests are pulled off by players who flipped town, as well. Since this is a different site, the reaction test was more useful, garnering actual reactions and giving me useful information that I've compiled. It's up to you to actually look at it and make judgement calls fro man objective standpoint.

Sorry but you're providing the samples to justify your own actions which could lead to bias so I can't really trust them since you brought that fact up.

Also why'd you pick Caz for the fake vigging in the first place?

Scummiest
Caz
Vivalas
Comrade Shamrock
TolyK
flabort
----------------------------------- Line of lynchability
Deathsword
Persus13
Tiruin
Silthuri
TheDarkStar
Deus Asmoth
mastahcheese
Towniest

Is there any reason why you trust who you trust or want to kill the rest? Please it is just important to state why as to state it at all.

Flabort:
What I learned from Scripten's word associations. He wanted to be annoying.

Yours:

Scripten:
Give some words that you associate with town?

While it's not directed to me, I don't see the point of this question?

The point and purpose is to elicit information. Since you interrupted you can answer too. It'll be easier to show when it's answered.

Words I associate with town: City, Doctor, Cop, Vanilla, died last night, clueless, day, question, mislynch, lynch, Vigilante, random, Lacombe, Morningside, Blackfaulds, Sewage, Sylvan Lake, Village, Hamlet, McDonalds, Medium, Home.
I still don't see the point. It's just a question that creates an answer; the answer is not in any way evidence to anything, except that those words can be associated with that word. And that I play a lot of Mafia. And live in Central Alberta. However, saying a random list of those words will not make you town in any way; I don't see how you can use these words as anything as a prosecutor, nor do I see any way these would be useful to the defense team.

You have named 3 (possibly 4) power roles: Cop, Doc and Vig (I'm not sure if med is one) Vig is separate from the others and so is medium. This suggests to me that you were trying to think up enough to put down. You also used "died" when let's face it no one dies by a proper accident at night in mafia. They are actually killed. You are using a less violent term. Could mean nothing though, just your choice of words perhaps. You also use clueless, I haven't seen yourself insulting yourself in the game yet. Are you the kind that does that I wonder. Maybe you're bragging early. Mislynch comes first while it is a common occurrence in town it could be your order of preference, also it is the more complicated version of the two which seems to be odd. Random could refer to the question itself or applies to a lot of things so irrelevant in my eyes. Then there is your group of placenames which doesn't add much except to lengthen it. Maybe you're testing maybe you just want to add length or you're just doing it to say the question is pointless. While it doesn't add much overall it gives me some perspective. I'm getting slight scum from this.

[Deus Asmoth]

The idea that town has no reason to lie seems a bit simplistic to me. If it were true, scum could just ask people what their roles were and they'd get told since the town wouldn't be able to lie.

You can just refuse. If you ask me "What is your role?" and I respond "I'm not going to answer that." Am I lying? No.

You're still omitting the truth for your own gain, and in a situation where town never lied, that answer would make you seem scummy as well.