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[Anvilfolk]

Turns out there's a hex-based wargame based on the 40k universe coming out on the 26th! It's published by Slitherine, known for some pretty good wargames. The feature list looks damned fine.

Spoiler: About this game (click to show/hide)

"Armageddon, a world whose name has become a byword for war and destruction on a massive scale…" -Lord Commander Solar Eugenian

There is no peace amongst the stars... It is the 41st millennium and there is only war!

We live in the Imperium of Mankind, the greatest empire the galaxy has ever known. Millions of planets united in their adoration for the Emperor.

But we are not alone…

A massive space hulk is drifting towards Armageddon, and the planet is threatened by the war hungry brutal Orks. Welcome to the battlefield!

ARMAGEDDON MUST NOT BE LOST
Warhammer 40,000: Armageddon is a fantasy war game set in the Second War of Armageddon. You take the role of defending the planet as the Imperium of Man against the Ork invaders. Throughout the campaign you will also be joined by three chapters of Space Marines: the Salamanders, Blood Angels and the Ultramarines.

In this hex-based, turn-based strategy game, players will lead the Imperial forces of the Armageddon Steel Legion and Space Marines from a variety of Chapters against the Ork invasion through over 30 scenarios, on the hostile terrain of the planet and its gigantic Hive Cities.

The game features a complex plot, involving known characters from the Warhammer 40,000 universe and while advancing through the campaign, the player will have the ability to carryover his core force from scenario to scenario.

Players fight alongside Commissar Yarrick and Commander Dante against the cunning Ork Warboss Ghazghkull Thraka and carry over battle-hardened veterans from scenario to scenario, using their experience and upgrading their equipment.

On top all this extensive modding options are available through a powerful and easy-to-use game editor.

Spoiler: Features (click to show/hide)

Large branching campaign with 30 major scenarios, plus additional 5 tutorial scenarios that explore the story in detail.
Hundreds of hours of gameplay fun with huge replay value and several difficulty settings.
The game portrays the Second War for Armageddon in great detail, from the initial Ork landings to the final liberation of the planet.
Fight alongside Commissar Yarrick and Commander Dante against the cunning Ork Warboss Ghazghkull Thraka.
A complex plot, which can develop during a mission, right in the middle of battle, creating an engaging story line with unexpected twists.
Meet several iconic characters like Inquisitor Horst, Governor Von Strab and many more, who will guide you through an epic scenario based adventure all with their unique voice-overs.
Players lead Imperial troops of the Armageddon Steel Legion, with supporting assets from a number of Space Marine chapters against the ferocious Orks.
Carry over battle-hardened veterans from scenario to scenario, using their experience and upgrading their equipment and weaponry.
Detailed combat model with custom terrain, cover and morale effects.
Guide your troops on Armageddon`s hostile ash wastes, through treacherous volcanic canyons, over acid polluted rivers, through dense jungles and through massive Hive cities.
300+ unit types representing Armageddon Steel Legion, the Orks, Blood Angels, Ultramarines and Salamanders Space Marine chapters and even Titans!
Multiple weapon systems per unit, each with their unique stats and graphical effects.
20 different unit stats plus many unique special traits and abilities.
Toggle options to set the game to your own liking like to enable/disable: Fog Of War & Undo Moves.
A separate set of maps are designed and balanced specifically for asynchronous multiplayer via Slitherine's PBEM++ system.
Play as either Orks or the Imperial forces in multiplayer.
Includes a Hotseat mode.
Extensive modding options delivered through a powerful and easy-to-use game editor.
Design and build your own unique scenarios and share them with the Warhammer 40,000: Armageddon community.

Leaked manual.

And a positive preview from wargamer.com.

[Robsoie]

The screenshots reminds me of the wh40k Rites of War wargame (that was based on the Panzer General 2 engine but the gameplay was unfortunately a bit too simplified)

[Sirus]

Posting to watch.

[miljan]

Any gameplay? I only see a trailer and screenshots

[aristabulus]

Any gameplay? I only see a trailer and screenshots

They seem to be aiming for an updated version of Rites of War, which means the actual gameplay will be kinda dry visually.  Doesn't mean it'll be a bad game, but it certainly doesn't serve any purpose as a marketing tool.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

After having seen all the screenshots on steam, I have to say that I am already becoming disappointed. I had expected something more along the lines of the 'epic' scale. I will reserve my final judgement, but it seems to suffer from the same unfortunate curse most W40k games do, which is that is fails to show the true, massive scale of the conflict. ESPECIALLY of any of the wars for Armageddon.

Judging from the mini-map I saw in the screenshots it looks like the scale of the maps is larger than DOW's (which with mods, became so choked with death it really didn't matter because it was so awesome), but i'm not really willing to sacrifice the mechanics of that game for a slightly larger, yet still hideously inappropriate-sized playing field. In truth, I do also enjoy TBS games a lot, advance wars was like my favorite game as a youth, but I really haven't seen the system work for a W40k game. Besides, a tile-based game can't really properly show the desperate, chaotic, grim dark fighting of the universe in my opinion.

Still, I like that you can carry over units from battle to battle and upgrade their equipment. Persistancy, is always appreciated!

[Anvilfolk]

Yeah, more games should feature persistence! This one feature makes them have so much more longevity! Look at Cyanide's Blood Bowl games, for instance.


I don't really mind the scale of the conflict, but I'm not hugely into the lore of WH40K. I can see how the epic scale hasn't been captured so far in any games though. Can you just scale it, and imagine that each counter isn't 4 troops but more like 4000? I mean, honestly, at that scale usually it becomes a counter-based wargame! I might see this working similarly to Cossacks 2 though, which was such a kickass game.

Anyway, I'm in the market for smart, clear, complex tactical games. Especially if they have persistence. Not a huge fan of the art direction, but I'm sure I can look past that if the game delivers on its other promises!

[Virtz]

Yeah, more games should feature persistence! This one feature makes them have so much more longevity! Look at Cyanide's Blood Bowl games, for instance.


I don't really mind the scale of the conflict, but I'm not hugely into the lore of WH40K. I can see how the epic scale hasn't been captured so far in any games though. Can you just scale it, and imagine that each counter isn't 4 troops but more like 4000? I mean, honestly, at that scale usually it becomes a counter-based wargame! I might see this working similarly to Cossacks 2 though, which was such a kickass game.

Anyway, I'm in the market for smart, clear, complex tactical games. Especially if they have persistence. Not a huge fan of the art direction, but I'm sure I can look past that if the game delivers on its other promises!

The epic scale was there in Warhammer 40k Epic: Final Liberation. Kind of to a fault, really, as a turn could take a while once you had a full-sized army.

And I'm kind of concerned this won't be as interesting as Final Liberation, cause at least that visualized the combat, movement and damage. Like I don't really care about high-end graphics, but I need some kind of visual gratification.

[Radio Controlled]

They should look at world in conflict if they want to have a system with the appropriate scale, yet without overwhelming the player.

[Anvilfolk]

Livestream tomorrow at 14:00 EST!

http://www.twitch.tv/slitherinegroup

Also found there's a "leaked" manual here: http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/312370/manuals/Armageddon_manual_EBOOK.pdf?t=1416514709

And a preview from wargamer.com - it's apparently very much a wargame! http://www.wargamer.com/article/3731/pc-game-preview-armageddon-awaits


Also, wat, this is coming out tomorrow!?!? Already!?

[Rez]

Use as small a monitor as possible

You don't tell me what to do, manual!

It looks like it might be good.

ed: excitement tapers as I see 3 factions and, knowing how 40k games have gone in the past, there will be a separate DLC for every additional faction.

[Majestic7]

Hmh, seems like the scale is pretty off though. Had it been too bad to make each unit a division and separate command units inside them or something? Bit like having division-type units and several attachment slots for commanders and elite squads. Then you could have the whole "minor skirmish with orks, 15k dead"-thing. Now there seem to be dozens, DOZENS of guys fighting over an entire planet.

Anyway, I'll likely test this since I'm a sucker for strategy. I just wish designers would actually take old classic game concepts and improve them instead of just copying one-to-one. Panzer General and the rest were great, but that doesn't mean you couldn't take what worked in them and work them further.

[ragnar119]

Did people played a little? How is the game?

[Hanzoku]

Having looked over the screenshots and manual, it looks entirely like a Panzer General clone, which is a shame. Panzer General is a good system - 10 years ago. Now, I'd have liked if there were its touches to make this seem like more then a mod.

Still, I also look forward to hearing from anyone who bought it if it's a fun game or not.

[Knave]

I feel like a system like RUSE/Wargame series (Airland battle, Red Dragon etc.) would suit the Warhammer 40k universe very well. hundreds of different unit types on a Real Time Tactical field complete with destructible terrain. Calling in air and artillery strikes and deploying companies of soldiers via drop ships or orbital drop would feel great. Or having a group of IG armour be stopped in it's tracks by a chaos titan.