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[AlStar]

Ah, there we go, top of the page.

Nation Overview:
akirilus✓

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Commanders:
Cap Only:
1286, Eagle King (cap only)
Fort:
1207, Eponi Chieftain
1330, Yakshini
1432, Hannya
2167, Enkidu Shaman
2542, Guhyaka General
484, Caelian Scout
Troops:
Cap Only:
Fort:
1183, Androphag Archer
1801, Fomorian Giant
83, Abysian Infantry
2157, Centauride Warrior
Foreign:
2566, Spire Horn Warrior
PD <20:
2566, Spire Horn Warrior
1183, Androphag Archer
Led by: 1207, Eponi Chieftain
PD >=20:
83, Abysian Infantry
2157, Centauride Warrior
Led by: 1286, Eagle King

AlStar✓

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Commanders:
Cap Only:
2297, Lion Queen (cap only)
Fort:
1115, Augur Elder
1300, Jotun Gode
1523, Slave Prince
1692, Mage of the Deep
2681, Camazotz
429, Slayer
Troops:
Cap Only:
1753, Tuatha Warrior (cap only)
Fort:
1817, Unmarked (sacred)
1751, Sidhe Warrior
1304, Jotun Javelinist
1689, Warrior of the Deep (sacred)
PD <20:
1751, Sidhe Warrior
1304, Jotun Javelinist
Led by: 1523, Slave Prince
PD >=20:
1689, Warrior of the Deep
1753, Tuatha Warrior
Led by: 2297, Lion Queen

Boksi✓

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Commanders:
Cap Only:
1702, Basalt King (cap only)
Fort:
1181, Enarie
1665, Noble Commander
1680, Scout
1693, Mother of the Deep
2293, Bouda
2680, Ah Itz
Troops:
Cap Only:
Fort:
1163, Warrior Maiden 
708, Reveler
1408/1409, Ichtycentaur
1310, Jotun Skinshifter (sacred)
Foreign:
1757, Fir Bolg Warrior
PD <20:
1163, Warrior Maiden 
708, Reveler
Led by:1665, Noble Commander
PD >=20:
1757, Fir Bolg Warrior
1408/1409, Ichtycentaur
Led by: 1702, Basalt King

Hellheart✓

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Commanders:
Cap Only:
1537, Demonbred (cap only)
1695, Basalt Queen (cap only)
2266, Bride-in-Waiting (cap only)
Fort:
311, Mystic
785, Gygja
2677, Ah K'in
Troops:
Cap Only:
769, White Centaur (cap only)
Fort:
2565, Spire Horn Archer
1104, Principe
2492, Great Olm
Foreign:
1544, Warrior of the Five Elements
PD <20:
2565, Spire Horn Archer
1104, Principe
Led by: 1461, Troglodyte Lord
PD >=20:
1544, Warrior of the Five Elements
2492, Great Olm
Led by: 1695, Basalt Queen

tompliss✓

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Commanders:
Cap Only:
1316, Dai Oni (cap only)
323, Dwarven Smith (cap only)
Fort:
1114, Augur
1174, Warrior Princess
2253, Berytian Captain
2292, Hyena Clan Witch Doctor
428, Assassin
Troops:
Cap Only:
Fort:
1543, Burning One
1162, archer (the ulmish one)
1165, Shield Maiden
82, Abysian Infantry (no shield)
1510, Hirdman
PD <20:
1162, archer (the ulmish one)
1543, Burning One
Led by: 1316, Dai Oni
PD >=20:
1162, archer (the ulmish one)
1543, Burning One
Led by: 1316, Dai Oni

My picks:
3 - Sacred warriors of the deep
1 - Fort-recruit warriors of the deep
1 - Fort-recruit Unmarked

Any thoughts on Hellheart's proposed PD scheme?

Edit: and we're waiting on 5 picks from tompliss and akirilus (Although, since you're both apparently looking at spending 2 points on PD, I can see why that'd be.)

[Hellheart]

Any thoughts on Hellheart's proposed PD scheme?

_{"Great Olms should be 2 units per point!"}

I totally agree, random audience dude!

[akirilus]

I didn't actually see where Fomorian Giants fall into Hellheart's pricing scheme.  Are they 2 for 3 pts?  1 for 2 pts?  1 for 2.5 pts?  The answer to that question will in large part determine whether I decide to tinker with my PD composition or not.

[tompliss]

If we agree with the "Warrior of the Five Elements" being 1per2 (so 1 more point for sacred) and the "Jotun Javelinist" being 1per2 (so 1 more point for Giants), we could see the Fomorian Giants at 1per3, right ?


Also, AlStar, you haven't told the gem per turn value : classic 5, or Early Era 6 ?
(and everybody, you should post the gems you want, so that everybody can finalize their race, as we're missing something from everybody, not just Akirilus and I :p )

[AlStar]

6 gems, your choice of how they're distributed. Can choose 3 blood for 2 normal gems. (so you can have up to 9 blood if you wanted.)

[tompliss]

So, national flag :
Red with purple border, and if, possible, the torch above it (I think EA T'ien'chi normally has it)
(If you tell me how to access to the vanilla flags, I'll post mine here in a few hours, once back from work)

Gems : 2 Fire 2 Earth 2 Death

Extra points :
1 to make 1543 Burning One (-> Hellish Destroyer) fort-recruit,
2 to change PD to [1162 archer; 1543 Burning One; 1316 Dai Oni] and [1162 archer; 1543 Burning One; 1316 Dai Oni]
2 to change starting Army to :
 - 13 units of "82 Abysian Infantry" (260 gold)
 - 24 units of "1162 archer" (240 gold)
 - 1 commander "1316 Dai Oni"

Now I'm ready


PS : We should talk again about the map.

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So I've been playing with the random map maker for some small maps. Any of these look good? (They all wrap in both directions)
Rand1:                                                           Rand2:

63 land, 12 sea                                                64 land, 11 sea

Rand3:                                                           Rand4:

64 land, 11 sea                                                67 land, 8 sea

Rand4 looks the most interesting. The ocean is like a giant hole in the ground.

For this reason, I think I would prefer Rand3 : that way, we can easily have multiple nations in the sea, not just "the most powerful underwater".


Something more like this ?

TomDraft 1 (70 land, 5 sea)


TomDraft 2 (68 land, 8 sea)


TomDraft 3 (68 land, 7 sea)


My first has al its sea provinces independant, so it may not be the best, the second has 2 "big" oceans plus a single sea province, for a more conventionnal layout.

[E. Albright]

Flags are archived in flags.trs in the data directory. It's not easy to get at them directly; the most straightforward route is screen caps from in game. If you're too lazy for that:

Spoiler: 30-second Kujin Flag (click to show/hide)

or

Spoiler: 40-second Kujin Flag: Too Much Blank Space Edition (click to show/hide)

[tompliss]

I love the second one, and would take it with just a darker shade of red (magma inspired, as for Abysia).

PS: Thanks for doing that, especially as you're not playing in this game 

[akirilus]

Ok, here's what I am going to do:

1 point - make Fomorian Giant fort-recruitable
1 point - make Androphag Archer fort-recruitable
1 point - make Spire Horn Warrior foreign-recruitable
2 points - make the starting army consist of 7 Fomorian Giants led by an Eagle King

For starting gems I would like 3 air, 1 fire, 1 death and 1 nature

[E. Albright]

Spoiler: More Of The Same: 20-ish% Darker Edition (click to show/hide)

PS: Thanks for doing that, especially as you're not playing in this game 

Hey, helping you out with this was important. I'll have you know that it let me drag my heels on submitting my 410 turn by 3, maybe 4 minutes, and you can't put a price on that!

[tompliss]

I really love this version.
You can see how the Hellish armies from the Volcano of Skulls are going to pillage every province they come across

[Boksi]

Right, gem sites. Actually, do you mind if I split mine into two?

The Internet: 1S3B, basalt king recruitment
Dirt Farm: 1W1E1D

[akirilus]

The Internet: 1S3B, basalt king recruitment
Dirt Farm: 1W1E1D

I think this adds up to 7, although I could be wrong.

[E. Albright]

3B<=>2X

[akirilus]

3B<=>2X

Right - not used to seeing blood income .  My bad on that one.