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[GrimMoire]

Specifically, did anybody else notice that everything dwarven after Tolkein's books came out can be summarized and potentially played out in Dwarf Fortress?

For example: Erebor. Moria. Pretty much the entirety of the Yogscast videos whenever it relates to something Dwarven. Upon occasion Minecraft. Dungeons and Dragons. World of Warcraft.

I find it kinda odd, yet strangely comforting.

[StagnantSoul]

Everything mountain-dwarf related, you should say. There are dozens of steampunk dwarven stories, magic dwarven stories, lots of non-stereotypical dwarven stories. Though, Dragon's Age dwarves are exact carbon copies of Dwarf Fortress. Nobles killed off for bad demands, magma water falls, huge smoothed halls, giant open pits full of spiders, weird birds, and ogres fighting, creepy undead dwarves, demons leading assaults against the dwarves, almost parallel.

[GrimMoire]

Mmm, true. But where does that put the Dwemer from TES?

[smjjames]

Mmm, true. But where does that put the Dwemer from TES?

From what I know, highly advanced magitech? Plus pointy ears and mesopotamian style beards.

They also apparently bound their entire race into the skin of some sort of colossus thing, I dunno. However, I have not played TES (and in-universe spinoffs like Skyrim), that's only stuff I've read or heard about.

[miauw62]

Mmm, true. But where does that put the Dwemer from TES?

From what I know, highly advanced magitech? Plus pointy ears and mesopotamian style beards.

They also apparently bound their entire race into the skin of some sort of colossus thing, I dunno. However, I have not played TES (and in-universe spinoffs like Skyrim), that's only stuff I've read or heard about.

Putnam inbound in 3... 2... 1...

Anyway, DF was originally basically made to be a "dig your own Moria"-style thing, so it makes sense that you can dig your own Moria

[King Kravoka]

Specifically, did anybody else notice that everything dwarven after Tolkein's books came out can be summarized and potentially played out in Dwarf Fortress?

For example: Erebor. Moria. Pretty much the entirety of the Yogscast videos whenever it relates to something Dwarven. Upon occasion Minecraft. Dungeons and Dragons. World of Warcraft.

I find it kinda odd, yet strangely comforting.

Personally I find it disturbing how much of fantasy fiction has stagnated to the point where you can easily guess what a race is like from nothing but stereotypes.

Dwarfs: Magicless miners who are masters of stubborness.
Elves: Nature loving, immortal race.
Humans: Either boring and average, or total mary sues, prone to being based off of nothing but medieval Europe.
Goblins/Orks: Always Chaotic Evil plunderers, sometimes being noble savages instead.
Kobolds: Numerous entire race of cannon fodder.

[Illogical_Blox]

Specifically, did anybody else notice that everything dwarven after Tolkein's books came out can be summarized and potentially played out in Dwarf Fortress?

For example: Erebor. Moria. Pretty much the entirety of the Yogscast videos whenever it relates to something Dwarven. Upon occasion Minecraft. Dungeons and Dragons. World of Warcraft.

I find it kinda odd, yet strangely comforting.

Personally I find it disturbing how much of fantasy fiction has stagnated to the point where you can easily guess what a race is like from nothing but stereotypes.

Dwarfs: Magicless miners who are masters of stubborness.
Elves: Nature loving, immortal race.
Humans: Either boring and average, or total mary sues, prone to being based off of nothing but medieval Europe.
Goblins/Orks: Always Chaotic Evil plunderers, sometimes being noble savages instead.
Kobolds: Numerous entire race of cannon fodder.

Heh, in my idea of the Fey world, humans have the most magic and dwarves... also have a bit of magic. They've teamed up with giants though.

[Arbinire]

Specifically, did anybody else notice that everything dwarven after Tolkein's books came out can be summarized and potentially played out in Dwarf Fortress?

For example: Erebor. Moria. Pretty much the entirety of the Yogscast videos whenever it relates to something Dwarven. Upon occasion Minecraft. Dungeons and Dragons. World of Warcraft.

I find it kinda odd, yet strangely comforting.

Personally I find it disturbing how much of fantasy fiction has stagnated to the point where you can easily guess what a race is like from nothing but stereotypes.

Dwarfs: Magicless miners who are masters of stubborness.
Elves: Nature loving, immortal race.
Humans: Either boring and average, or total mary sues, prone to being based off of nothing but medieval Europe.
Goblins/Orks: Always Chaotic Evil plunderers, sometimes being noble savages instead.
Kobolds: Numerous entire race of cannon fodder.

I agree, it's a horrible system....until you get the person who thinks they're going to "shake things up" by making their fantasy races "totally unique".  This usually translates into making elves into savages, dwarves into spiritualists, orcs into technologists, etc....it's either that or we get hackneyed real life equivalencies like Japanese cultured elves, Aztec Orcs....see what I'm getting at here?

[smeeprocket]

Mmm, true. But where does that put the Dwemer from TES?

Dwemer are actually elves... and dwarves. Almost everything is an elf variant is TES.

[StagnantSoul]

So, you're complaining about races being stereotypical, but also complaining about when they're not?

[Sizik]

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OurDwarvesAreAllTheSame

[draeath]

Personally I find it disturbing how much of fantasy fiction has stagnated to the point where you can easily guess what a race is like from nothing but stereotypes.

Dwarfs: Magicless miners who are masters of stubborness.
Elves: Nature loving, immortal race.
Humans: Either boring and average, or total mary sues, prone to being based off of nothing but medieval Europe.
Goblins/Orks: Always Chaotic Evil plunderers, sometimes being noble savages instead.
Kobolds: Numerous entire race of cannon fodder.

I agree, it's a horrible system....until you get the person who thinks they're going to "shake things up" by making their fantasy races "totally unique".  This usually translates into making elves into savages, dwarves into spiritualists, orcs into technologists, etc....it's either that or we get hackneyed real life equivalencies like Japanese cultured elves, Aztec Orcs....see what I'm getting at here?

Shadowrun had an interesting twist on it all. If you're not familiar, look into the reboot.

Perfect example, this is probably not how you would think of an orc:

[King Kravoka]

Personally I find it disturbing how much of fantasy fiction has stagnated to the point where you can easily guess what a race is like from nothing but stereotypes.

Dwarfs: Magicless miners who are masters of stubborness.
Elves: Nature loving, immortal race.
Humans: Either boring and average, or total mary sues, prone to being based off of nothing but medieval Europe.
Goblins/Orks: Always Chaotic Evil plunderers, sometimes being noble savages instead.
Kobolds: Numerous entire race of cannon fodder.

I agree, it's a horrible system....until you get the person who thinks they're going to "shake things up" by making their fantasy races "totally unique".  This usually translates into making elves into savages, dwarves into spiritualists, orcs into technologists, etc....it's either that or we get hackneyed real life equivalencies like Japanese cultured elves, Aztec Orcs....see what I'm getting at here?

Shadowrun had an interesting twist on it all. If you're not familiar, look into the reboot.

Perfect example, this is probably not how you would think of an orc:

That guy looks like he's ready to become the star of an ork themed Twilight knockoff.

[draeath]

Alright then, how about this one?

[Uristides]

Sorry to be the buzzkill, but what's exactly surprising or noteworthy in our favourite fantasy world generator being able to reproduce fantasy stories? Hell, given enough monkeys bashing away at the worldgen typewriter we could probably stumble upon something arbitrarily close to dwarven Hamlet in Legends mode.