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[Radio Controlled]

Patience padawan.

[NAV]

Designs that need council approval

Spoiler: Brain Saver (click to show/hide)

A backpack designed to hold a severed head and keep it preserved and ready for reanimation. Requires the head to be hooked up to feed of chemicals and submerged in biogel.

An upgraded version of the Armory Master's "Brain Box" design.

When used quickly and properly it will prevent the head from losing any statpoints, and prevent it from dying permanently after a few hours. A very good thing to have for long missions.

Skill requirements: Med ?
Recommended price: 2 tokens.

Spoiler: Brain Saver Helmet (click to show/hide)

An automated version of the Brain Saver built into a rather bulbous helmet. When you die it pumps your head full of chemicals and submerges it in biogel, keeping it completely fresh. This prevents you from losing any statpoints, and prevents you from permadying after a few hours.

Also includes a headchopping iris.

Recommended price: 2 tokens.
1 token discount if your suit already has medical systems.

Completely finished designs

Spoiler: Dragoncoat (click to show/hide)

A stylish hooded trenchcoat covered in black scales. The coat is made from the same reactive carbon nanofiber weave as a Civic Defender's Longcoat and the scales are made from laser-resistant ceramic hexsand. It will protect you from energy weapons up to a laser rifle, and it will protect you from kinetic weapons up to a gauss rifle but it won't last many hits against those. It has a hood to protect your head.

This is a flexible ultralight armour that can be worn without any encumbrance, even over other armours.

2 tokens

Spoiler: Heavy exoskeleton (click to show/hide)

An upgraded exoskeleton that's slightly bulkier and about twice as strong, the exact same strength as a synthflesh body in fact. It lets you wield even heavier weapons and use even more brute force. It doesn't have any real armour though.

8 tokens.

Spoiler: Heavy Armoured Exoskeleton (click to show/hide)

Take the Heavy Exoskeleton and give it heavy armour. It has one layer of hex-composite over the torso and helmet to protect from heavy weapons, and one layer of battlesuit plate over the entire body to protect from small arms. The closest a human can get to a walking tank and still fit comfortably through doors. It's slightly less agile than the unarmoured version, and as with most heavy armours the joints are rather vulnerable.

12 tokens.

Spoiler: Gungnir Electrolaser Kit MK2 (click to show/hide)

When you shoot a laser, it turns the air to plasma. This plasma conducts electricity. So when you shoot a laser through an  electric current, it becomes a lightning gun.

This is a kit that consists of a generator and second trigger that mount underbarrel, and a spark gap that mounts in front of the barrel. There's a dial on the side that controls power. At full power it delivers almost as much shock as a Tesla Saber, but requires a full turn to recharge.

This kit can be mounted on any laser weapon.

Effect:
In atmosphere: Your laser now shoots lightning. It fries any uninsulated electronics you shoot, and it fries any uninsulated people you shoot. Really good against people in vehicles or other ungrounded metal boxes, or in water. Might have a chance to arc to multiple people or electrocute them with a near miss. Can also be used as a taser.
In vaccuum: You have a taser bayonet.
In water: You die.

3 tokens.

[Maegil]

Does the brain saver really need its own helmet? It should be an add-on, so people could still benefit from their milno-plate or battlesuit helmets.

[NAV]

Milnoplate is an extra layer that goes on top of your space helmet. So whether the brain saver is a helmet or an upgrade, it makes no difference since it still makes it more bulky. You could get a milnoplate helmet modified to fit over it though, probably for free.

Also for the record I left out sy's one token discount if your suit already has medical systems, simply because I don't want to deal with pesky half tokens under the current system. If we can change it to "0.5 tokens" rather than "1 whatever that doesn't earn tokens yet" I'm putting that discount back in.

[Nikitian]

Dragoncoat, Heavy exoskeleton, Heavily Armored Exoskeleton, Gungnir Electrolaser MK2 are approved for Armory inclusion. The Civic Defender's Longcoat and old Gungnir Electrolaser are decreed obsolete and are to be removed from Armory.


@NAV You mean, Tinkerer's payments? 1-token items already net the inventor a 0.5 token per purchase (but only full tokens are collectable). Or what are you asking about?

_{Technically, supposedly they net 1 token every two purchases, but that's just the same stuff. Just hide the fractional tokens from those who can't stand their sight, and it's fine.}

[NAV]

@NAV You mean, Tinkerer's payments? 1-token items already net the inventor a 0.5 token per purchase (but only full tokens are collectable). Or what are you asking about?

_{Technically, supposedly they net 1 token every two purchases, but that's just the same stuff. Just hide the fractional tokens from those who can't stand their sight, and it's fine.}

I find it strange and annoying how you have to write entire sentences when adding a single digit would work just as well and be easier to keep track of, and I find it strange and annoying how you can sell multiple different 1-token items, and then have 2 or more half tokens which don't add up to a full token.

After some consideration I'll include the discount, but that aspect of the payment system still annoys me.

[syvarris]

@NAV
I also find the current system stupid, and somewhat annoying.  Just getting .25 token for each token in your design's cost would be more fair, easier to keep track of, harder impossible to exploit... But PW vetoed that system back when it was first suggested.

I don't get it.  Right now, a 4t item pays 1t in royalties, so 25%.  A 5t item pays 2t in royalties, for 40%.  Tinkerers are essentially encouraged to get their things priced at breakpoints, rather than at what they think is fair.  Also, it's easier to exploit, especially with 1t items, which always grant 50% royalties, and 100% resale.  If the Team Fund were smart and underhanded, it could buy a milnoplate helmet for every single person on every single mission, and resell them immediately after each mission, thus losing no money and actually donating money to Milno.  Fractional royalties wouldn't solve that entirely, but they would make it less exploitable--and they'd kill less obvious exploits.

*sigh*

Council!  I have designs.  First one is somewhat of a priority, because I know IronyOwl was interested in it, and would need it before the missions start.  The others can be ignored at your leisure, though.

Spoiler: "Paladin" Melee Assaultsuit/Heavy Robotic Body Variant (click to show/hide)

I'm also considering "Beacon" for the designation.  I'd be fine with a more descriptive name, but I can't come up with one that's concise.

The Paladin variant, named partially for its gross incandescence, and partially for the beneficial effect it has on morale, is a heavily stripped down assaultsuit/heavy robotic body which has traded all armor for a host of solid light generation machines.  While it is much less durable than standard variants, cannot fly like the mobility variant, and prevents safe use of conventional weapons, the Paladin is extremely strong and mobile, and utterly dominates in melee combat.  The solid light matter generator grants a trained pilot an unprecedented level of versatility, allowing them to easily swap from being slow and heavily armored, to being exceptionally fast and mobile, and back again.  The solid light protection fields grant excellent durability, essentially negating small arms fire entirely, though they cannot stand up to heavier weapons.



Primary addition of this variant: Solid Light Matter Generator and many Solid Light Protection Fields
The SLMG is the exact same as the human-sized version.  It serves to create melee weapons for the suit, additional armor plating if needed, or whatever else the pilot might require.  The SLPFs are intended to be a backup defense, and ideally should should share parts with the SLMG.  They grant much equal protection than the human-sized version, but their fields overlap, making them much stronger than a single protection field.  Since the suit has no armor aside from this, the SLPF should ideally be on at all times, which would greatly hinder any pilot who relies on CON--hence why this is a melee variant.

Supplementary additions (required):
This variant is covered with tiny LEDs which give off excessive amounts of light in the 600-700 nanometer range, to ensure that the solid light machines always work.  This would make it glow a rich reddish-gold, if I understand correctly.
It is also equipped with an assaultsuit-sized Enhanced Movements rocket modification, similar to the Mk.III's system.  While it cannot fly under its rocket power, it can use them to greatly enhance its speed, strength, and dexterity for a limited period of time. 

Supplementary additions (if they don't drive the cost over 15 tokens, ordered by priority):

• A stronger exoskeleton.  +50% over the base model, unless the council is okay with more.  Note that HRB Paladins would have 150% BS strength, while AS Paladins would have 300% BS strength.
• Blackout mode.  The outside of the suit would be coated with a very thin layer of hexsand--barely enough to resist a lasrifle.  Furthermore, all the bright LEDs would have little hexsand covers which can be deployed (they'd be turned off, but I don't want them reflecting ambient light).  Activating this would leave the suit basically completely defenseless, but very hard to see at the same time; It's useful when you have an enemy who is so strong armor doesn't matter, and you only want to avoid detection.
• Automated SLMG option.  This option wouldn't require skill with uncon, and would allow the user to summon predefined light objects, much like how the swiss-army-pimpknuckles work.  This has been okayed by piecewise, and as such, I'm asking you guys for a list of how many options it should have.  I'll post in OOC asking people for suggestions after I know how many preset things the SLMG can summon.

Everything the Paladin loses, with token equivalents for human-sized equipment:

• ALL five layers of armor (50t)
• Fist weapons (3t)
• Surface electrification system (8t)
• Riding handles + claymores (?t)

Everything that it gains:

• AS-sized Solid Light Matter Generator (10t)
• Solid Light Protection Fields (6t*however many you'll let me fit on without going over 15t total)
• Enhanced Movement Rockets (no flight) (10t?)
• Enhanced Exoskeleton (maybe) (5t?)
• Blackout Mode (maybe) (?t)

Requirements: Same as base, plus the SLMG's requirements of +? uncon, +? mind.

Spoiler: I haven't actually written up any more designs yet, but I WILL.  BE READY. (click to show/hide)

I told you I didn't write anything more.  Why are you looking in here?  Go away.

[Egan_BW]

Patience padawan.

Nah.
WHERE IS MY ELECTROBLASTER, MIYA?!

[Radio Controlled]

Patience padawan.

Nah.
WHERE IS MY ELECTROBLASTER, MIYA?!

Oiling the nerf machine with its entrails.

I don't get it.  Right now, a 4t item pays 1t in royalties, so 25%.  A 5t item pays 2t in royalties, for 40%.  Tinkerers are essentially encouraged to get their things priced at breakpoints, rather than at what they think is fair.  Also, it's easier to exploit, especially with 1t items, which always grant 50% royalties, and 100% resale.  If the Team Fund were smart and underhanded, it could buy a milnoplate helmet for every single person on every single mission, and resell them immediately after each mission, thus losing no money and actually donating money to Milno.  Fractional royalties wouldn't solve that entirely, but they would make it less exploitable--and they'd kill less obvious exploits.

Only problem with that plan is the whole 'conscience' part that flares up whenever thought of mechanics abuse flare up.

But yeah, it's not exactly a perfect system. Though adding a token to the cost in order to reap more reward, also might make it less likely to get bought (though if sales lost weights up against the extra token, I dunno).

Council!  I have designs.  First one is somewhat of a priority, because I know IronyOwl was interested in it, and would need it before the missions start.  The others can be ignored at your leisure, though.

We'll get on it, but there's a very large amount of council stuff right now, so it might take a while :/
I'll try to get it done before the mission though. Even though it might start at literally any moment now.

[Unholy_Pariah]

I don't get it.  Right now, a 4t item pays 1t in royalties, so 25%.  A 5t item pays 2t in royalties, for 40%.  Tinkerers are essentially encouraged to get their things priced at breakpoints, rather than at what they think is fair.  Also, it's easier to exploit, especially with 1t items, which always grant 50% royalties, and 100% resale.  If the Team Fund were smart and underhanded, it could buy a milnoplate helmet for every single person on every single mission, and resell them immediately after each mission, thus losing no money and actually donating money to Milno.  Fractional royalties wouldn't solve that entirely, but they would make it less exploitable--and they'd kill less obvious exploits.

Only problem with that plan is the whole 'conscience' part that flares up whenever thought of mechanics abuse flare up.

But yeah, it's not exactly a perfect system. Though adding a token to the cost in order to reap more reward, also might make it less likely to get bought (though if sales lost weights up against the extra token, I dunno).

Ignore your conscience, it only gets in the way.
Force milno do donate all proceeds to the team fund for self replenishing newbie equipment and wiki payment fund.

[Parisbre56]

And then Steve replaces tokens with remote controlled nukes.

[Unholy_Pariah]

matter saver.

Converting tokens to nukes only benefits me.

[Radio Controlled]

Designs that need council approval

Spoiler: Brain Saver (click to show/hide)

A backpack designed to hold a severed head and keep it preserved and ready for reanimation. Requires the head to be hooked up to feed of chemicals and submerged in biogel.

An upgraded version of the Armory Master's "Brain Box" design.

When used quickly and properly it will prevent the head from losing any statpoints, and prevent it from dying permanently after a few hours. A very good thing to have for long missions.

Skill requirements: Med ?
Recommended price: 2 tokens.

Spoiler: Brain Saver Helmet (click to show/hide)

An automated version of the Brain Saver built into a rather bulbous helmet. When you die it pumps your head full of chemicals and submerges it in biogel, keeping it completely fresh. This prevents you from losing any statpoints, and prevents you from permadying after a few hours.

Also includes a headchopping iris.

Recommended price: 2 tokens.
1 token discount if your suit already has medical systems.

After looking it over, the council thinks that the brain saver helmet should be a no as it is. Reasons are that the closest equivalent in the armory (Fibroblast Enhancement Therapy) is ten tokens, and that an item that perfectly prevents stat loss for just two tokens would all but invalidate the stat loss mechanic and make death even cheaper than it already is.

The brain saver backpack however we think is a better idea, though with a few stipulations:
4 tokens
+2 med needed to use reliably (too low skill lowers chance of it working, might even make things worse)
room for one brain (regular human or braincase based)
reusable
Always prevent permadeath from being dead for too long
Has a good chance to reduce or fully prevent stat loss, depending on a roll. Higher med skill means bigger chance to fully prevent or reduce stat loss (someone with +4 med would just about always prevent stat loss, for example, except maybe for special circumstances).


Reasoning is that a system like this wouldn't just invalidate the whole mechanic at low cost and that it gives more importance again to medics at a higher level (now anyone with Mk.II or above basically has no real need for any medic, the suit does most of the work).

[syvarris]

Bump for the council.  I changed the Paladin design to account for recent PW statements.  It now has a single human-sized SLMG, and many human-sized SLPFs which overlap.  This probably doesn't matter, but I'm posting anyway.

Also, since the SLMG can in fact be automated, I'd like to know how many forms I can pre-load.  This seems like a balance concern, which is why I'm asking you, but I'll put another poke up just in case.

@Radio in On-ship, saying that I'm still changing things
The only thing I really changed is the SLMG, which is not beefed up like I originally intended.  From a balance perspective, everything else is essentially identical, albeit with the added question of "how many shapes can the automated version pre-load?", but that's not a time-sensitive question.  The difference between a single large SLPF and several small ones might matter from a resource perspective, but I was under the impression you guys didn't really care about that.

[Toaster]

1.Can you (or anybody else reading this) think of a way to electrify the solidlight javelins that doesn't require ammo?  I'd try an automated elemental infuser as someone else recommended, but that has a limited battery.

Crossposting this a bit, but what are you trying to do?  Fling Zeus-lightning bolts?  Even if they're a valid conductor (which word of PW seems to confirm) I doubt they have capacitance to hold the electricity until they can discharge into the target.  You'd have to have some way to hold them to charge them up without them discharging into yourself/your suit and then fling them at the target.  That said, would it be possible to have trailing light "wires" that just create a connection to a suit generator to shock a target?