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[Egan_BW]

So over IRC PW said I could invent AP rounds for the Brisent! Uses aerodynamic fins to keep pointed forwards in flight, uses a molten metal penetrator or something I don't quite understand, and cost one foe one token.

So Council, Balance!

[tryrar]

Also, PW might switch to phone sex hotline style for tinker from now on. Pay $2.99 for 10 minutes of tinker

[Empiricist]

Hooray!

[Nikitian]

So over IRC PW said I could invent AP rounds for the Brisent! Uses aerodynamic fins to keep pointed forwards in flight, uses a molten metal penetrator or something I don't quite understand, and cost one foe one token.

So Council, Balance!

So... not hand-throwable? Okay...
And - 1 per token? I.e., 3 per pack? Okay...

...Good luck getting that into Armory, I'm afraid. Does it kill Battlesuits or something? Because thinner things can be taken out by conventional explosives, and those come at 3 per token.

[Parisbre56]

Yeah, it sounds like a rocket warhead delivered via grenade. Might be useful against conventional armour in tanks, since the parabolic trajectory would allow it to hit the thinner top armour, but not much else. Anyway, I suggest bringing the price down, because right now it's as expensive as a heavy Gauss cannon anti armour or nuclear shell and probably weaker, since it is not launched with the same speed. Unless it uses one of Sean's fancy plasma lances, in which case it might be strong enough to do some serious damage and justify its price.

[tryrar]

Speaking of plasma lances, there's a similar principle of using a electromagnetic pulse to propel molten metal jets with a fair degree of force and accuracy. It's called MAHEM, and is a really cool sounding DARPA project(hence why the wikipedia page is so sparse). I've been meaning to see if this would increase our current explosive ap round performance, but have been holding off since armor penetration stuff has always been the bane of PW's existence

[Parisbre56]

Another idea: combine a hollow forceblade monoatomic penetrator with one of Sean's plasma lances to make a sort of plasma injector for extra penetration. Put it at the end of a long pole to make it a literal plasma lance.

[Nikitian]

Another idea: combine a hollow forceblade monoatomic penetrator with one of Sean's plasma lances to make a sort of plasma injector for extra penetration. Put it at the end of a long pole to make it a literal plasma lance.

This... might actually work. Crazy, and probably over-the-top-Tinkery, but it might work.
Sean might be interested in this, I think.

[Radio Controlled]

This just in!

Just say when you need council involvement, and when you do please do include the relevant info (either in a write-up or via quoting the relevant parts).

So over IRC PW said I could invent AP rounds for the Brisent! Uses aerodynamic fins to keep pointed forwards in flight, uses a molten metal penetrator or something I don't quite understand, and cost one foe one token.
So Council, Balance!

A 'please' never hurts you know 

Anyways, brought it up.

[tryrar]

This just in!

Just say when you need council involvement, and when you do please do include the relevant info (either in a write-up or via quoting the relevant parts).

So over IRC PW said I could invent AP rounds for the Brisent! Uses aerodynamic fins to keep pointed forwards in flight, uses a molten metal penetrator or something I don't quite understand, and cost one foe one token.
So Council, Balance!

A 'please' never hurts you know 

Anyways, brought it up.

If I can remember where we keep the logs, that'd help . But anyways, I'm requesting formal council approval and pricing, and having PW give performance data was a prelude to that.

[Sean Mirrsen]

Also, on the topic of Council approval. Anton is, at some point, going to be doing work on the "Artee" unit, intending to make it available as a Sod replacement for any commander that would be willing to take one. Would the Council have any say in how it is made and what features it can have, considering there isn't a token cost associated with Sods?

[Nikitian]

There isn't a token cost, but there is a resource cost. Even if regular sods are literally grown in vats, we have robosods, and their equipment has to come from somewhere.

Please, try deciding the feature list first, and checking it up to Piecewise. Given how sods work, you could probably go up to two-tree sods worth of resource cost with Artees, so you could move from there. And since it might as well be 'background war effort' design (how many times have we seen sods on a mission outside the one and only Battle for Hephaestus?), the cost might even be largely irrelevant, that with no-price-tag-attached attitude, similar how the cool advanced shuttles were designed by tryrar recently.

Piecewise is generous, Council is... well, I don't know. But Piecewise is known to be generous, and his word has the ultimate weight, so please take it up to him first. And then, if/when he sends you to the Council, ask them, but no earlier.

[Parisbre56]

Also, on the topic of Council approval. Anton is, at some point, going to be doing work on the "Artee" unit, intending to make it available as a Sod replacement for any commander that would be willing to take one. Would the Council have any say in how it is made and what features it can have, considering there isn't a token cost associated with Sods?

Council is only responsible for things that can be used by players. Things where being balanced matters. If you do not intend for that thing to replace gunner boots but just want it as something similar to sods and Steve boots, something the players might end up controlling or fighting side by side on a mission but will never have access to through the armory, then you're free to go nuts. As long as the appropriate administrators agree, of course.

[tryrar]

PW did say you could have your own person sod to order around for a cost(I think 5 tokens due to them having to be grown looking to you as their commander). Might wanna ask him about that and nail down prices for a comparison.

[Parisbre56]

I remember someone asking for sods and piecewise replying with laughter.
Even if they are sold, I'm certain they wouldn't be cheaper than a gunner boot.