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If selling trap components is "cheating" how do you make money?
« on: November 18, 2014, 07:42:15 pm »

So I pump out wooden spiked balls nonstop every fortress to trade for things I want.

I hear some people consider this an exploit though and would love to up my difficulty because it is ridiculously easy.

What exactly can be sold for a good profit that wouldn't count as cheating? I've never really experimented.
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Re: If selling trap components is "cheating" how do you make money?
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2014, 07:45:24 pm »

Trading is ridiculously easy, no matter what you do.

You really think merchants want to give up all of their steel weapons for the hundreds of piss poor quality mugs I've been pumping out for a year?  Nonsense.

Make and sell what you want and don't worry about what other Urists think.

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Re: If selling trap components is "cheating" how do you make money?
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2014, 07:47:13 pm »

What exactly can be sold for a good profit that wouldn't count as cheating? I've never really experimented.
Crafts. Lots and lots of crafts. It worked well enough back in 40d (before trap components were ludicrously overpriced), and it still works today.
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Re: If selling trap components is "cheating" how do you make money?
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2014, 07:54:00 pm »

The reason it's called an exploit is because the same amount of materials wouldn't make anywhere near the same amount of wealth. I pump out porcelain, stone, and billon crafts, covered in cut stone, a few gems, and, if they're porcelain, a tin glaze.
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Re: If selling trap components is "cheating" how do you make money?
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2014, 07:56:26 pm »

All the stuff to do that is situational though. I may not even get the materials to do that.

It seems like you need to spend a lot of time micromanaging trade goods, when you are also micromanaging things like steel production, the military, etc.
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Re: If selling trap components is "cheating" how do you make money?
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2014, 08:05:41 pm »

I sell barrels of roasts, but that's probably just as exploity...
You can just leave "make bone crafts" on repeat and put them in bins. Pretty easy actually.
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Re: If selling trap components is "cheating" how do you make money?
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2014, 08:07:01 pm »

I usually make bone into bolts early on until I have a respectable metal industry going.
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Re: If selling trap components is "cheating" how do you make money?
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2014, 08:15:21 pm »

Just leave make stone or any metal you have in abundance crafts on repeat. It doesn't take any micro managing.
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Re: If selling trap components is "cheating" how do you make money?
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2014, 08:18:19 pm »

Crafts.  I usually set up a dwarf as a permanent stoneworker as soon as I get the first zlevel of my giant 'hall' dug.  He gets good enough to sell moderate value stuff year 2.  In the meantime, I sell any high value furniture I have.  Wheelbarrows, corkscrews, gems, and occasionally food if I already have enough.
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Re: If selling trap components is "cheating" how do you make money?
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2014, 10:48:23 pm »

The problem I have is GETTING all my damn crafts to the trading post in time. How do.
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Re: If selling trap components is "cheating" how do you make money?
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2014, 10:50:39 pm »

Set up the crafters near your trade depot, and a stockpile with bins directly beside it. It's literally the only time I'll use bins.
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Re: If selling trap components is "cheating" how do you make money?
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2014, 11:12:05 pm »

Coins.

That is "making" money.
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Re: If selling trap components is "cheating" how do you make money?
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2014, 11:13:35 pm »

I only do gold coins, because A) gold is as common as copper on thick maps and B) teehee.
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Re: If selling trap components is "cheating" how do you make money?
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2014, 01:36:42 am »

I just sell crafts. Make a stockpile with bins, and you shouldn't have any trouble getting plenty of them to the trade depot in time. Even simple rock crafts should be enough after a year or two.
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Re: If selling trap components is "cheating" how do you make money?
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2014, 02:26:16 am »

My main export is worn clothes..
I started with cutting gems and selling electrum (have lots of gold and silver on the map), but now I find caravans don't have enough stuff I want to even give me a fair trade for the clothes. I'm also having a bone carver that produces trade junk in bins from otherwise useless materials such as horns, skulls, teeth, and hooves (actually more wealth per haul than electrum, since you can get a lot of junk into a bin, but only 10 electrum bars).
For a while I used Lavish Meals, since that seems to be the stuff that's carries the most wealth per haul, and hauling capacity is a very big constraint.

Someone said coins have a poor leverage compared to e.g. cups, but my main problem is actually to get rid of my cluttering junk.
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