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Author Topic: Nobody ever freaking attacks me anymore in 2014  (Read 70901 times)

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Re: Nobody ever freaking attacks me anymore in 2014
« Reply #45 on: December 03, 2014, 03:53:13 pm »

yea I rely on those invasions to cull large swaths of my population.

It starts to get crowded without large amounts of war casualties.
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Re: Nobody ever freaking attacks me anymore in 2014
« Reply #46 on: December 03, 2014, 04:05:59 pm »

There is significant anecdotal evidence that holding goblin prisoners will increase the number of attackers in sieges, presumably trying to recover the prisoners before you can subject them to whatever horrible things you have planned for them.

yea I rely on those invasions to cull large swaths of my population.

It starts to get crowded without large amounts of war casualties.

There's a solution now though, just put the more useless dwarves in webbed cages and deport them to Siberia the Mountainhomes with the traders.
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Re: Nobody ever freaking attacks me anymore in 2014
« Reply #47 on: December 03, 2014, 04:06:50 pm »

Check the error log, you might have the error that armies camp forever, so no sieges...
What error log? Also, if it is that error, is there anything I could do about it anyway?
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Re: Nobody ever freaking attacks me anymore in 2014
« Reply #48 on: December 03, 2014, 04:07:40 pm »

There is significant anecdotal evidence that holding goblin prisoners will increase the number of attackers in sieges, presumably trying to recover the prisoners before you can subject them to whatever horrible things you have planned for them.

yea I rely on those invasions to cull large swaths of my population.

It starts to get crowded without large amounts of war casualties.

There's a solution now though, just put the more useless dwarves in webbed cages and deport them to Siberia the Mountainhomes with the traders.

I think what I need is more military tbh. and it needs to be training around the clock. I only have 3 or 4 people in a squad train in a month, but I just need full time military for the sieges that probably won't happen.

I've been avoiding cage traps, tho, those things are easy mode.
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Re: Nobody ever freaking attacks me anymore in 2014
« Reply #49 on: December 03, 2014, 04:53:23 pm »

Check the error log, you might have the error that armies camp forever, so no sieges...
What error log? Also, if it is that error, is there anything I could do about it anyway?
the errorlog will be under in the dwarf fortress folder.
the error I have seen is this: camp order missing parent -- army will camp forever.

I have had large fortresses, with a lot of wealth and not been sieged, and the common feature is this in the errorlog
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Re: Nobody ever freaking attacks me anymore in 2014
« Reply #50 on: December 03, 2014, 10:27:13 pm »

This problem bothers me a lot too.

Necromancers are happy to rush you in the first year with endless hordes practically invincible zombies, but if goblins show up anymore, it is usually extremely late, possibly decades after embark, and extremely small; at that point in the game, even just jokes.

One theory in a thread I made a while ago was that goblins were taking a long time to arrive at your site, because some people reported getting regular invasion progression after several years of nothing, and armies have to travel now. Still, embarking right next to goblin civilizations doesn't necessarily get you the desired attacks, so it's probably something else really complicated.

The one sure solution is to fall back to previous versions, which is a shame. This seems like a pretty critical bug, but without any leads, Toady will probably not look into it for a while at least.
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Re: Nobody ever freaking attacks me anymore in 2014
« Reply #51 on: December 03, 2014, 10:44:16 pm »

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without any leads, Toady will probably not look into it for a while at least.
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I have had large fortresses, with a lot of wealth and not been sieged, and the common feature is this in the errorlog

Sounds like a lead to me! Not too useful to me as a player if I can't prevent or change it, but surely useful to toady.
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Re: Nobody ever freaking attacks me anymore in 2014
« Reply #52 on: December 03, 2014, 10:48:52 pm »

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without any leads, Toady will probably not look into it for a while at least.
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I have had large fortresses, with a lot of wealth and not been sieged, and the common feature is this in the errorlog

Sounds like a lead to me! Not too useful to me as a player if I can't prevent or change it, but surely useful to toady.

Sounds great, then; we just need to see if Toady knows what it means, or find out ourselves before making a bug report.
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Re: Nobody ever freaking attacks me anymore in 2014
« Reply #53 on: December 04, 2014, 09:29:23 am »

I miss having an actual SIEGE of like 90 goblins, plus 20 trolls, and the general riding a voracious cave crawler.

Ahh.... those were the good days.
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Re: Nobody ever freaking attacks me anymore in 2014
« Reply #54 on: December 04, 2014, 11:07:46 am »

I'm afraid that this old fashioned siege would conquer my fortress by dropping the FPS to the HFS.
Well, it seems that my i7 can't handle the DF at this moment.
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Re: Nobody ever freaking attacks me anymore in 2014
« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2014, 11:23:26 am »

I haven't had a siege since those two to seven person bandit groups would wander through in the earlier versions.

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Re: Nobody ever freaking attacks me anymore in 2014
« Reply #56 on: December 04, 2014, 11:56:13 am »

I would personally love to see big sieges with trolls smashing through those stupid 1 tile thick wooden walls and drawbridges, or goblins setting them alight, but it seems that they have been unintentionally weakened. Giving siegers the option of destroying certain fortifications and walls would make them far more potent.
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Re: Nobody ever freaking attacks me anymore in 2014
« Reply #57 on: December 04, 2014, 12:04:55 pm »

I would personally love to see big sieges with trolls smashing through those stupid 1 tile thick wooden walls and drawbridges, or goblins setting them alight, but it seems that they have been unintentionally weakened. Giving siegers the option of destroying certain fortifications and walls would make them far more potent.

Or at least giving them the ability to have "sappers" that dig a hole under the wall, or ladders to get over them. That may be planned, I'm not sure. But it would make sense. Especially the ladder part, considering we now have stepladders.
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Re: Nobody ever freaking attacks me anymore in 2014
« Reply #58 on: December 04, 2014, 01:40:54 pm »

I would settle for them just actually appearing. Baby steps.
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Re: Nobody ever freaking attacks me anymore in 2014
« Reply #59 on: December 04, 2014, 02:00:51 pm »

It is bloody annoying, you train and equip a decent military some one squad with battleaxes the other with silver warhammers, and nothing, no sieges
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