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Thomasasia

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Execution Vampire
« on: November 14, 2014, 03:01:09 pm »

What if i found a vampire, put him in a good sized engraved room with furniture and a bed and crafting stations/ forges, and made an airlock system so that the finished goods can be taken out, a supply chute, and give him armor so his clothes don't fall off (eventually). This way, i can make good weapons, armor, ect, have my fort never die, and nobles could accidentally fall in there to be killed by the vampire. would this work? What if i made a vampire super soldier academy, with nobles as snacks?
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Re: Execution Vampire
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2014, 03:39:27 pm »

If things are the same as when vampires first came out (Shortly before I quit playing awhile back,) the vampire, without food, won't die but will slow to a crawl. He will only eat sleeping dwarves, I think, as well, though they might not have to sleep, but I am betting on them having to at least be living.

The army is not really effective because of the consumption of other dwarves and their sluggishness without that food source. Personally, I'd just feed the workshop vampire children. Confine him to a burrow and close off the place, but keep a child in there with a designated bed for when he is hungry. Obviously this makes it more complex, because you need stores of food and water for the vampire's food.

If you have an excess of children it is a great way to get rid of them though, I am sure.

Vampires aren't really very efficient, especially since you can't tell them who to eat. They might decide your legendary weaponsmith looks the tastiest at any given meal, for example.

I remember someone posting about the queen of their civilization moving into the fortress, this pallid bald headed noble looking female dwarf who was a vampire. That's probably the only time I wouldn't kill them off, the queen of your civ can eat whoever she damn well pleases.
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Re: Execution Vampire
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2014, 04:14:24 pm »

Are you joking? Surely that queen would have killed DOZENS on dwarves!! Stab her with a spear, and let her die of infection!
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2014, 04:32:40 pm »

I don't think vampires can die of an infection. :?.

She's a queen, you can't really punish her can you? Would have to arrange for an unfortunate accident.

Besides, she's probably killed thousands of dwarves, dozens is just insulting.
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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2014, 06:25:33 pm »

Vampires can at least BE infected, since I did that to one of mine, but the bugger refused to die. Falling 10 z-levels onto a menacing spike trap with wooden (of course) menacing spikes finally did it in, though.

I'm not sure the sluggishness is caused by lack of blood or booze, though, and vampires don't drink booze... My vampire mayor took something like 2 months to conduct a negotiation with a liason...Definitely sluggish, but since the liason didn't fall asleep, it didn't eat him. You also run the risk of getting your vampire elected mayor, since they tend to be good at social skills.

Dwarf Therapist has so far listed a bit over a thousand kills for each of my vampires, interestingly enough most of them were human, with a few elves and dwarves thrown in for variety, and nothing but sentients.
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Re: Execution Vampire
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2014, 10:46:57 pm »

They slow to a crawl due to lack of alcohol, yes, not due to lack of food. Feeding them dwarves won't speed them up, even if the dwarves just had a good drink themselves: The vampire still needs alcohol and can't drink alcohol...

They do however make an excellent bookkeeper/manager, if you put them in a nice room with a table and chair. They don't need a bed, but if you do intend to feed them, then the food will indeed need a bed.... and they do wash themselves, a well would be used, if you can be sure they won't escape through the well. They don't drown, you see...
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Re: Execution Vampire
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2014, 11:06:36 pm »

I think there's a solution to that issue: give dwarf blood a syndrome that removes [NODRINK] from anything that drinks it.
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Re: Execution Vampire
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2014, 11:11:43 pm »

Ballistae don't work. I sent 15 silver ballista bolts point blank into a naked vampire, he either tanked the bolt, or, incredibly surprising, since it was point blank in a 1x1 room, dodged it.
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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2014, 11:49:15 pm »

pallista arrow is of edged attack now.
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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2014, 11:57:31 pm »

This was in 40.07, when it was still blunt damage.
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Re: Execution Vampire
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2014, 12:13:29 am »

Upon reading the title, I imagine you lock the vampire in a room, drop those who you want to be executed, and....
I think you can also dig a tunnel that links to your tomb, and let the vampire bury the victim, will that work?
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Re: Execution Vampire
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2014, 12:27:19 am »

Well when I want to execute vampires, I trap them in a 1x1 room with a spike trap with 10 green glass spikes and set the activation lever on repeat...

wait, this thread is about executions USING vampires? Well that would be kinda hard since they only attack sleeping dwarves and stay hidden as dwarves most of the time... though if you were to drop them and their victims into a pit with smoothed stone walls so they couldn't leave and waited for the dwarf to fall asleep... no wait, the dwarf would just starve before falling asleep for the the vampire to eat...

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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2014, 12:36:45 am »

no wait, the dwarf would just starve before falling asleep for the the vampire to eat...

Build a bed first, assign the bed to the victim. You can also drop some food and drinks.
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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2014, 01:29:07 am »

no wait, the dwarf would just starve before falling asleep for the the vampire to eat...

Build a bed first, assign the bed to the victim. You can also drop some food and drinks.
But then you'll kill the vampire by dropping barrels of roast plump helmets and longland beer on them...

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« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2014, 01:35:50 am »

no wait, the dwarf would just starve before falling asleep for the the vampire to eat...

Build a bed first, assign the bed to the victim. You can also drop some food and drinks.
But then you'll kill the vampire by dropping barrels of roast plump helmets and longland beer on them...

Yeah, but you don't have to use 1x1 small room. Make a separated room to store the food, use a door so you can lock the vampire out when you want to drop barrels.

Also you can recruit the vampire to have direct control over their movement. For example, station the vampire squad out of the food room before dropping anything in.


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Wait, if so, you don't even have to drop anything in, just build another room (put the last meal and a bed in) next to the vampire and lock the door. Recruit the victim,  station him inside the room, unlock the door to the vampire, disband the squad and watch.
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