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[LordBucket]

>100 days /played druid raid healer with Over 9000 and Loremaster signing in.

Back in the day.

Cataclysm was last I played. I think it's a little late to be joining the WoW parade. Though I do kind of miss that I never finished Battlemaster and Insane in the Membrane. Leveled a rogue  just to collect lockboxes for that, back when lockpicking had to be trained. Good times.

[Orange Wizard]

I started playing shortly after Burning Crusade and stopped shortly after Cataclysm. It devoured many hours and I was perpetually awful at the game (hotkeys? what are they?) but it was fun. I spent a great deal of my time screwing around by setting off fireworks and giving people soap. Also levelling alts, then getting bored of said alts, and making new alts. I reached the character limit many times.

So yeah. Same sentiment as most people here. Enjoyable timesink back in the day.

[Vendayn]

Its still a good MMO. And honestly, only MMO I can get into with the exception of EVE Online.

Recently tried SWTOR, ESO, FFXIV, Darkfall, LOTRO (that turned out horrid after freemium), GW2...even the bowels of Tibia and Runescape. So desperate I tried Planet Entropia. Tried SWG but it isn't really ready to play still being in alpha or beta or whatever (I love pets and pets aren't functioning 100%)

Other MMOs...I tried...Anarchy Online, EQ2, beta tests...heck tried ArcheAge but left since I hate cash shops.

Only two MMOs that I still enjoy a lot are well WoW and EVE.

WoW, because there is so much to do and variety. EVERY RACE HAS A STARTING AREA AND STORY. EVE because...so much to do and variety.

No MMO will ever beat them in what you can do. They'll keep making updates and adding stuff to do and other MMOs can't catch up. Maybe star conflict will out EVE, but...I'm not even paying 1% of attention to it.

GW2 ended up being a cash grab (I lolled so hard at the cash shop). It sucked compared to the first. SWTOR voice acting and story sucked, can get same experience for much cheaper and FAR better quality in KOTOR/Mass Effect/Dragon Age. LOTRO is just horrid what turbine did to it. Tibia is okay. Runescape is runescape. FFXIV wasn't my thing. Not really any exploring to do. ESO...I'd rather play my awesomely modded Skyrim. Entropia is actually...graphically good...thats about it. And SWG which would be placed alongside WoW/EVE is still being developed. I'm waiting for its actual release (and yes that is star wars galaxies) and yes you can play it, the good ole classic version not the crappy version SOE made.

If I'm bored of those two, I play age of empires 2 or mostly Skyrim...I love Skyrim. I can play skyrim until the next elder scrolls game so...a long time

In truth, most new MMOs suck...so I'm pretty much stuck with WoW and EVE. It doesn't look like anything better is coming along, and most of it is freemium/cash shop free to play pay to win shit like archeage.

Its like Skyrim...its kinda an old game...but nothing better has come along RPG wise. Nothing with as much moddability and replayability and expansive open world game. Its been many years, and no one even wants to make a game like Skyrim. Just linear unmodded rpgs. The new witcher looks REALLY good (I dunno how it will turn out, but looks great), but NOTHING at all to take Skyrim's place thus far. Same with WoW/EVE. No MMO has come out that is better than them. Want sandbox? EVE. Want themepark? WoW. Pretty much only two options. Of course people will play darkfall or something else, but they aren't as huge or epic as WoW/EVE. The only exception is SWG (but its older), and it needs more work done on it.

[LordBucket]

No MMO will ever beat them in what you can do. They'll keep making updates and adding stuff to do and other MMOs can't catch up. Maybe star conflict will out EVE, but...I'm not even paying 1% of attention to it.

It might be technology that knocks WoW off its throne. They've done graphical updates, and they even pretty much rebuild the world when they added flight to old world Azeroth. But VR is coming. Oculus Rift is scheduled for a late 2015 release.  It might take years, but the entire method of "watch a guy fight stuff" might start to feel dated when you can be the one doing the fighting.

"Video killed the radio star."

[Vendayn]

No MMO will ever beat them in what you can do. They'll keep making updates and adding stuff to do and other MMOs can't catch up. Maybe star conflict will out EVE, but...I'm not even paying 1% of attention to it.

It might be technology that knocks WoW off its throne. They've done graphical updates, and they even pretty much rebuild the world when they added flight to old world Azeroth. But VR is coming. Oculus Rift is scheduled for a late 2015 release.  It might take years, but the entire method of "watch a guy fight stuff" might start to feel dated when you can be the one doing the fighting.

"Video killed the radio star."

I haven't payed much attention to Oculus Rift (I've learned to avoid paying attention before a game is released. Most just end up too hyped and disappointed) but Rift didn't look that great to me. You still have to use a controller/mouse or keyboard from what I saw from the couple youtube videos I've watched. I want something like the Wii/U where your hands control the motion and your body literally controls the character. Wii u already does that, I didn't see Oculus do that. But like I said, I only pay 1% at the very most to ANYTHING pre-release...so maybe I'm mistaken here. But what I saw, it didn't look any different than what the Wii does and even worse as I STILL must use a controller/keyboard etc.

Maybe technology isn't there yet for virtual reality. But...it IS there, because Wii has it. But even then, it isn't really that accurate. So for me to get excited or interested at all, it will probably easily be 10+ years away.

Now what would be cool is Matrix style. You yourself is in the world, go into some kind of seat, plug yourself in and hello virtual world. And, there would be sensories for smells/touch and...HELLO PORN! The porn industry would take that and dominate ROFL.

But that is a futuristic sci-fi thing...but THAT would kill off entire games rofl. To be honest, I won't be interested that much in virtual reality like Rift unless I can plug myself in and be transported matrix style. But that might even be past my lifespan. And if some religious nutters take over, that won't ever happen, it be like the dark ages but worse. But I think that be amazing tech...do it matrix style. Plug yourself in and there you are.

But before that, I don't think Oculus rift is that great looking. I don't want to be wearing a helmet and STILL have to use a keyboard/mouse/controller...that is LESS immersive to me.

[Niveras]

I would agree, VR as we have right now will never really be a thing. It is too incongruous to be visually immersed into a world while still siting in a chair and having to rely on keyboard/mouse (or worse, sitting in a chair and trying to perform complex motions). Movement alone is really weird in that respect. Sure, you don't have to be sitting in the chair... but I think there will always be a demand for entertainment that doesn't require full-body activity. Even if we get a full suit like out of Ready Player One, you'd still have to deal with motions intended for the virtual space being reflected in real space (I forget exactly how the book covered this; the narrator had a full body harness in the second act, but only a head set and gloves in the first).

Really, I would argue the VR we have right now isn't even VR per se, but just a glorified monitor where looking around is tied to head movements, whereas otherwise they're tied to mouse movements.

Personally, if we ever do get matrix-style integration, at that point mankind's future is entirely digital, and the only "real" work we'll need to do is securing generation of electricity. On the other hand, if we no longer need pesky flesh, the rigors of sublight space travel won't really be a concern, so I suppose we actually can still explore "reality" rather than let everyone be a god in their own dream.

Anyway, that's neither here nor there.

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So. How 'bout dat Horde?

[Darvi]

For real.  On one hand it's a huge time sink.  On the other hand once you're max level it stops being a huge time sink because you have a few things to do (Get whatever dailies you want to do, get your conquest points for the week, do your crafting and AH shit) and you can accomplish all that with maybe an hour a day.

And then it stops being a giant time sink and starts being a shitty four hour a week job you pay to have.

And that's worse.

This basically sums up why I stopped playing. The pre-endgame stuff is usually fun and engaging, but once you got to do heroic dungeons to actually accomplish anything it just becomes a chore. I basically levelled to 85 twice and then stopped (until my mom asked me to level one of her alts in Pandaria), because buying an expansion pack just for that content is just not worth it.

[Vendayn]

Horde? FOR THE ALLIANCE!

I have a dwarf hunter, a dwarf death knight, another dwarf hunter...and a 3rd dwarf hunter...and a 4th dwarf hunter. 3 hunters are level 90, my DK is level 91 and one hunter is level 43

Can you tell I love dwarves? And I like the level game mostly, so I don't tend to do end game raiding. So I have a lot of hunters And dwarf is the only race to be for a hunter. Because BOOM HEAD SHOT...dwarf with guns fits so well

They can add any race to WoW. And dwarves will always be the best

[Darvi]

What about Earthen.

[SharpKris]

MMos generally have been sinking on my radar. after Darkfall (1) and EVE i've never enjoyed any theme park mmo to any extant.
atm i'd suggest that you stay away from WOD if you have no real history with WC lore then you'd be less the eager to do the expansion.
 am i the only one that really needs a decent RTS game to come out? WC:tft where have the good days gone?

where's my WC4!? 

[LordBucket]

You still have to use a controller/mouse or keyboard from what I saw

I want something like the Wii/U where your hands control the motion and your body literally controls the character.

 Watch from 0:25 to 0:50 in the video in the post you're responding to. The arms in the game are doing exactly the same things his arms are doing. Or, look at this guy, with the full walkaround device using a wiimote to fire arrows and play Skyrim. Keep in mind Skyrim isn't even designed for VR. It will get better than that.

once you got to do heroic dungeons to actually accomplish anything it just becomes a chore.

Personally I think most people did heroics all wrong. Gearing up through heroics is awful. The proper way to do heroics was to both do arena and to be in a raiding guild doing raids on the day they're released. Then go back and do heroics once you're overgeared for them, to fill in blank spots in your gear. Don't be the guy desperately trying to play catch up to convince people to let you into raids. That doesn't work because of "need kara gear to do kara." Instead be the pvp/raider who everyone is grateful to have in their heroics.

I had so much fun doing heroics. Healing pugs in arena gear, just waiting for the inevitable question from dps "Why do you have more health than the tank? OMG!!!! You're a healer? WTF are you gemmed for stamina?!?!!?" Then being asked "is this too fast?" and saying "no, hurry up. Bigger pulls, come on let's go" then watching the dps stop to drink as the two us charged into the next room without them. "I have mana. Pull. They'll catch up. And if they don't, that's ok too." Being in a dungeon with a raid tank I knew, then deliberately pulling rooms before before queuing for replacement dps so they'd show up in the middle of the fight. Booting bad dps and not even bothering to requeue for a replacement because "dude, it's just a heroic. What do we need five people for?"

That's how you do heroics. Sure, some it it was maybe a bit mean sometimes, but I don't remember dps ever complaining when they got dragged through heroics in half an hour when they were used to spending an hour and a half only not even be able to kill the final boss.

I had a lot of fun playing WoW.

[Darvi]

But PVP sucks balls and joining a guild means having to socialise which sucks even worse

It's like doing a job application except you're applying to do social stuff with other people

[Jack_Bread]

But PVP sucks balls and joining a guild means having to socialise which sucks even worse

I have a friend who's like this. Why do you even play if you're not interested in socializing?

[Darvi]

I don't.

[LordBucket]

But PVP sucks balls and joining a guild means having to socialise which sucks even worse

...uhh, if you don't pvp and you don't raid...what do you do? Grind quests to level alts? That's the least fun part of WoW.

EDIT:

I don't.

Oh.