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Who would've you voted for during the Ukrainian presidental elections?

Petro Poroshenko
- 5 (29.4%)
Yulia Tymoshenko
- 2 (11.8%)
Oleg Lyashko
- 2 (11.8%)
Anatoly Hrytsenko
- 2 (11.8%)
Serhiy Tihipko
- 0 (0%)
Mykhailo Dobkin
- 0 (0%)
Other
- 6 (35.3%)

Total Members Voted: 17


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Author Topic: Ukrainian Crisis Discussion Thread №3: Love your Country  (Read 74985 times)

da_nang

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Re: Ukrainian Crisis Discussion Thread №3: Do not Tempt the Toad.
« Reply #450 on: November 24, 2014, 03:29:34 am »
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Re: Ukrainian Crisis Discussion Thread №3: Do not Tempt the Toad.
« Reply #451 on: November 24, 2014, 03:45:49 am »
Quote from: da_nang on November 24, 2014, 03:29:34 am
Quote from: Guardian G.I. on November 24, 2014, 02:09:07 am
A resident of Debaltsevo, a front-line town in Donetsk Region, talks about Ukrainian shelling of the town with Ukrainian patriots live on Ukrainian TV channel Inter. Their reaction is adamant.
From what I've read, Debaltsevo has been under Ukrainian control for a few months now. I don't think the UA would be shelling their own positions.
Yes, Debaltsevo is currently under Ukrainian control - she was speaking about Ukrainian artillery strikes during their advance in June. She also claimed that Ukrainian forces can't maintain law and order in the town and have very poor discipline, and the residents are afraid of them.
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Re: Ukrainian Crisis Discussion Thread №3: Do not Tempt the Toad.
« Reply #452 on: November 24, 2014, 05:06:20 am »
Fun fact:  29% of that Ukrainian TV channel is owned by Russian TV-channel

It is not a problem to handpick pro-seperatist(Russian, Soviet)  residents of Debaltsevo or any other city. I consider that a provocation
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Re: Ukrainian Crisis Discussion Thread â„–3: Do not Tempt the Toad.
« Reply #453 on: November 24, 2014, 05:12:31 am »
ur, could you elaborate on how 30% ownership overcomes the nonrussian 70%
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Re: Ukrainian Crisis Discussion Thread №3: Do not Tempt the Toad.
« Reply #454 on: November 24, 2014, 05:29:04 am »
Oh, the rest is rather fun, too. The rest of channel is  owned by Inter Media  Group. This group is  20% owned by our dear former president friend and advisor (same as owned by Yanukovich, really ) and 80% belong to an oligarch who never opposed the former government.

In Maydan times this channel poured shit on protesters no worse than Russian channels. Now they have to be more subtle.

« Last Edit: November 24, 2014, 05:50:01 am by Ukrainian Ranger »
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War must be, while we defend our lives against a destroyer who would devour all; but I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend.

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Re: Ukrainian Crisis Discussion Thread â„–3: Do not Tempt the Toad.
« Reply #455 on: November 24, 2014, 05:43:45 am »
huh, fair enough in that case

i admit to not having watched the vid yet but i'll keep that in mind when i do
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Re: Ukrainian Crisis Discussion Thread №3: Do not Tempt the Toad.
« Reply #456 on: November 24, 2014, 08:10:41 am »
I have to disagree with you here, UR. Ukrainian government's control of mass media is rather tight. Besides, the woman in the video is hardly the only example of a civilian who dislikes Ukrainian army's behaviour.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2014, 08:14:31 am by Knit tie »
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Re: Ukrainian Crisis Discussion Thread №3: Do not Tempt the Toad.
« Reply #457 on: November 24, 2014, 08:11:10 am »
LSP, would it kill you to not type like a 12 year old on a phone?
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Re: Ukrainian Crisis Discussion Thread №3: Do not Tempt the Toad.
« Reply #458 on: November 24, 2014, 08:15:12 am »
Quote from: mainiac on November 24, 2014, 08:11:10 am
LSP, would it kill you to not type like a 12 year old on a phone?
I, for one, find LSP's typing adorable, especially combined with that avatar.
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Re: Ukrainian Crisis Discussion Thread №3: Do not Tempt the Toad.
« Reply #459 on: November 24, 2014, 08:19:56 am »
It comes across as moronic to me.  Like someone intentionally acting like a moron to annoy the people around him.
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Quote from: misko27 on October 20, 2016, 10:52:51 pm
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Re: Ukrainian Crisis Discussion Thread №3: Do not Tempt the Toad.
« Reply #460 on: November 24, 2014, 08:23:42 am »
Then you haven't been around him for long. It quite accurately reflects his style of thinking, you know?
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Re: Ukrainian Crisis Discussion Thread №3: Do not Tempt the Toad.
« Reply #461 on: November 24, 2014, 08:25:24 am »
Quote from: mainiac on November 24, 2014, 08:19:56 am
It comes across as moronic to me.  Like someone intentionally acting like a moron to annoy the people around him.
mainiac, please stop being so confrontational. Nobody here wants to fight you.
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Re: Ukrainian Crisis Discussion Thread №3: Do not Tempt the Toad.
« Reply #462 on: November 24, 2014, 08:29:35 am »
Quote from: Knit tie on November 24, 2014, 08:25:24 am
mainiac, please stop being so confrontational. Nobody here wants to fight you.

 ::)  Knit Tie, you have started using my word as a verb for something you dont like.  Maybe get off the soapbox about being confrontational, mkay?

Quote from: Helgoland on November 24, 2014, 08:23:42 am
Then you haven't been around him for long. It quite accurately reflects his style of thinking, you know?

No, it's been that way for a long time.
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Quote from: misko27 on October 20, 2016, 10:52:51 pm
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Re: Ukrainian Crisis Discussion Thread №3: Do not Tempt the Toad.
« Reply #463 on: November 24, 2014, 08:31:03 am »
It makes my eyes bleed though.
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Re: Ukrainian Crisis Discussion Thread №3: Do not Tempt the Toad.
« Reply #464 on: November 24, 2014, 08:53:35 am »
Way to go with fake interviews, Russia-1: http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/11/24/russian-tv-borrows-diplomats-name-to-discuss-horrors-of-euromaidan/

Sorry about the EuromaidanPR, but it was the only place where I could find that news in English.
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