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Total Members Voted: 17

[Ukrainian Ranger]

IMO, G20 summit pretty much confirmed that world leaders treat Putin as a fuckhead from now on

[mainiac]

In world news: G20 summit pretty much confirmed that Ukrainian crisis is now a conflict of Russia vs. the USA, both of which remain dead-set on winning. Any kind of resolution seems increasingly unlikely.

Russia is like a crazy stalker ex, thinking that they have something going with the US when it's obvious to everyone else they dont.

[Sergarr]

In world news: G20 summit pretty much confirmed that Ukrainian crisis is now a conflict of Russia vs. the USA, both of which remain dead-set on winning. Any kind of resolution seems increasingly unlikely.

obvious to everyone else

Didn't Obama compared Russian menace to Ebola recently? That's gotta count for something.

[Helgoland]

In world news: G20 summit pretty much confirmed that Ukrainian crisis is now a conflict of Russia vs. the USA, both of which remain dead-set on winning. Any kind of resolution seems increasingly unlikely.

Mostly a conflict between Russia and Western Europe, really. The US can always just sit back and let things happen, they're half a continent away - and they're war-weary to boot. This is what makes the whole situation so dangerous: The US thinks they don't have to do anything, Putin knows that neither the US nor the EU will actually do stuff to stop him, and the EU believes they can hide behind Uncle Sam, when really he's preparing to bail. This could be the setup for another  stumble like 1914!

[mainiac]

Didn't Obama compared Russian menace to Ebola recently? That's gotta count for something.

Yes it counts for Russia pissed a lot of people off.  It just doesn't mean that the US is the second half, it's just one of many.  Why dont you guys shower your love on the Germans?  I'm sure they'd be a lot more into this.  Or how about the French?

[Sergarr]

Didn't Obama compared Russian menace to Ebola recently? That's gotta count for something.

Yes it counts for Russia pissed a lot of people off.  It just doesn't mean that the US is the second half, it's just one of many.  Why dont you guys shower your love on the Germans?  I'm sure they'd be a lot more into this.  Or how about the French?

Our oil (black love) is being selled in dollars. If that is not the "shower of love" then I don't know what is.

[LordSlowpoke]

start selling oil in rubles

this will piss the american government off far more than ukrainian shenanigans

[Sergarr]

start selling oil in rubles

this will piss the american government off far more than ukrainian shenanigans

Selling oil in a speculation-prone value is not a good idea.

Though the Russia-China deal is supposed to have payments in ruble-yuan or something like that, without filthy usds.

[LordSlowpoke]

start selling oil in rubles

this will piss the american government off far more than ukrainian shenanigans

Selling oil in a speculation-prone value is not a good idea.

Though the Russia-China deal is supposed to have payments in ruble-yuan or something like that, without filthy usds.

swiss franc, then

they're having problems battling deflation as-is

[Guardian G.I.]

Spoiler: Ruins of Donetsk Airport, bird's eye view (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Damage caused by Ukrainian artillery strikes in Gorlovka (Horlivka), a front-line town 27 kilometers to the north-west of Donetsk (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: An improvised bomb shelter in a basement of an apartment building, Gorlovka (click to show/hide)

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Probability of Russian advance raised quite a bit after the summit. Putin is obviously insulted and he is a type of dictator who acts on emotions.

[Sergarr]

Poroshenko declaring an economical blockade of Donbass region doesn't help, too.

[miljan]

In world news: G20 summit pretty much confirmed that Ukrainian crisis is now a conflict of Russia vs. the USA, both of which remain dead-set on winning. Any kind of resolution seems increasingly unlikely.

Russia is like a crazy stalker ex, thinking that they have something going with the US when it's obvious to everyone else they dont.

Except, when it comes to US they probably do. Its not a secret, that US is acting in ukraine, from sending/heaving CIA agents to military advisers and probably weapons (but it's more from near nato countries than US directly)

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/05/us-sending-advisers-gear-to-ukraine-/10046845/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/melikkaylan/2014/04/16/why-cia-director-brennan-visited-kiev-in-ukraine-the-covert-war-has-begun/
http://rt.com/usa/white-house-confirms-cia-ukraine-448/
http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2014/08/09/cia-intervention-in-ukraine-has-been-taking-place-for-decades/
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29198497

[Ukrainian Ranger]

I will tell you a secret. Ukraine is a sovereign country and can invite any advisors, intelligence officers or even armed forces

[LordSlowpoke]

I will tell you a secret. Ukraine is a sovereign country and can invite any advisors, intelligence officers or even armed forces

are you saying that it invited russian armed forces then

HOHOHO~